SE Banning players with large amounts of gil?

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Originally Posted by ilJumperMT

Crafters in my FC have 20-30mil Gil and rising everyday, yet they did not get banned.

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You have accused us of cheating over and over again and repeated this same sentence many times.

You have no more proof that your FC members are telling the truth, than you have to say we are not.

So I can only assume you are "trolling".

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Originally Posted by Pinworms

Me either, perhaps they flagged you because you bought all the sparklers and they thought you were going to do it? I don't know if they have Gil value or not...l

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It is possible. But assuming the person above is right and they are worth 10gil each, my 600ish sparklers would only be worth 6000 gil to an NPC :S

But even if fireworks are worth 10gil each and people farm wet ash in order to buy them and sell to the NPC for gil, surely this would be a legit (yet slow) method for making gil. (assuming no 3rd party programs were used ofc)

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Originally Posted by KevinC

I made millions since I was the first 46+ miner on my server and only supplier for rare mining mats for a couple of days.

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You're like the 5000th person on this thread and all the others on the subject to say they were the first supplier of some kind on their server.
I'm not saying you weren't, but all you can do now is be patient and keep your fingers crossed.

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Originally Posted by ilJumperMT

Crafters in my FC have 20-30mil Gil and rising everyday, yet they did not get banned.

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http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...008/4008_7.jpg

when people with less than 1m are getting suspended and people with more than 10m aren't, it's pretty simple to see the likely suspension methodology doesn't involve a set amount of gil as a blanket point

some people have had the misfortune of coming into contact with illicit gil, and they got suspended for it. of course, the more gil you have, the more likely you probably had business with someone who had illicit gil. it explains also why people who dealt in 2 star crafts were more likely to get suspended, since it's more likely that a gil buyer would buy those items with their flagged gil

Come on guys, how naive can you be if you think SE actually BANS people for having over 1 million gil. SE and no other company will tell you how they register a bot from another person, because this would give away to the real cheaters how their system works.

Obviously, 99 % of the time, the people who get suspended knew VERY well what they were doing, but they always play dumb in the forums. I've seen this so many times but the dev reply is, we have sufficient evidence to prove that you knew very well what you're doing and are just trying to blindly lie your way through to see if you have a shot to getting your account back.

Let I remind everyone who buys gil from RMT, if that guy gets caught, all transaction will trace back to you and everyone they dealt with. RMT guy doesn't lose anything cuz he already got your money but you lose your money and your account.

So don't be stupid and play the game for what it is.

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Originally Posted by Ephany

You're like the 5000th person on this thread and all the others on the subject to say they were the first supplier of some kind on their server.
I'm not saying you weren't, but all you can do now is be patient and keep your fingers crossed.

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Hard to be patient now since I'm suspended since last friday and they didn't post anything about it. There's way too many people claiming they did nothing wrong (including me) and if we really did something wrong I think we would have stopped by now. I really I hope people won't get banned if some random gil buyers get one of your items on the market cause we can't even control who buy our stuff.

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Originally Posted by jcw005

As for how all the gil was generated, that was answered on reddit. If you look at the numbers, there are only 1M FF14 players. Playing through and questing gets you probably about 250-300K. If every player had done that process, that'd be 300K * 1M, i.e. still short of the amount banned. That doesn't even include the fact that obviously not everyone has done so. The answer given on the FF14 subreddit was that there was a gil generation exploit discovered which turned wet bombard ash into sparklers which were then sold for 10gil each. Speedhacks were employed and it resulted in the generation of (allegedly) millions of gil an hour. Additionally, supposedly there was/is another exploit which has not been explained as of yet.

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Ur a noob. Legacy servers people have hundreds of millions.

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Originally Posted by KevinC

I just wish SE would release the info to let people know the reasons people got suspended...

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Included in the above are players who used/obtained gil, items, or actions through fraudulent means. Although we are taking the utmost care and attention to prevent such actions, players who discover any confirmed cheats should, under no circumstances, exploit or disseminate such information. Instead, we ask that players file a report by using the in-game command [System Menu] -> [Support Desk] -> [Contact Us] -> [Report Cheating].



In addition, the recent maintenance operations have implemented countermeasures to nullify the effects of the aforementioned cheats.

We will continue to take stringent disciplinary action against any accounts with confirmed involvement in RMT/illicit activity; players should take care to steer clear of any activity that violates the Terms of Service. Please be forewarned.

* "Cheating" consists of using third party programs or tools to conduct actions players would not normally be able to do in the game (for example, obtaining gil or items through illicit means, traversing at extremely high speeds, warping, using automated means to operate your character while you are away from the game).

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You are welcome.

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Originally Posted by Cuban

Ur a noob. Legacy servers people have hundreds of millions.

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I'm sorry if you haven't gotten this far in school yet, but even assuming what you say is true, a) we haven't received any reports of Legacy bannings, only non-Legacy, and b) 367 BILLION is a thousand times your "hundreds of millions" number.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1360291

"We are dealing with them after carefully investigating, so for those that are normally playing, and collecting money wouldn’t have any problem. We will not randomly suspend accounts so please do not worry."

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This. This needs to be posted and re-posted so all the players claiming wrongful banning (for having "too much gil") are outed as the liars that they are. SE has been banning accounts for years in FFXI, and they're experienced enough to know how all this works. The rest of you stop the madness and wild speculation. Hopefully these boards will weed out the masses when the free time expires this weekend :D

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Originally Posted by Saryx

This. This needs to be posted and re-posted so all the players claiming wrongful banning (for having "too much gil") are outed as the liars that they are. SE has been banning accounts for years in FFXI, and they're experienced enough to know how all this works. The rest of you stop the madness and wild speculation. Hopefully these boards will weed out the masses when the free time expires this weekend :D

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When i called CS they told me this is a new game so they are still working out the kinks to make sure wrongful suspensions won't happen. So i was told they are acknowledging that they have wrongfully suspended people and their excuse "its a new game, so we make mistakes."

And you are linking Japanese statements. Their CS have actual power to order an investigation or look deeper into the problem at hand. Try calling NA CS. they are powerless to help you with anything about investigations or anything past looking up general information.