How to Dragoon Per Second: A DPS Paradigm

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Originally Posted by jehuty08

Getting the hang of the new rotation, but every so often my old muscle memory creeps up and says "hey, hey guy, you know that old rotation you spent so much time practicing and fine tuning? Yeah, just do that" I end up skiping the 4 hit and losing my BotD :\

Just wondering, since the introduction of BotD, has the priority changed for limit break duty? I would imagine monks are still the last ones you want to LB, but dont know for sure

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This. I find myself going straight to Phlebotomize by reflex after I finish IDC instead of doing a 4th. :P 'Tis annoying, but when you've ingrained something in muscle memory for nearly two years...

That said, I'm loving the new play of DRG. It's exactly what I wanted from the expansion - more stuff to do for more damage. The fact that the rotation itself is less than half as long as it used to be is just a bonus.

@Noxotic - Nice setup! I use the LT+RT bar pretty much exclusively for cooldowns and like you I've got six of them stacked in vertical hotbars next to the crossbar to track them more easily. I found that I'm making much fewer mistakes since I did that.

I couldn't have either combo on the d pad, just limits movement for me

I hate trying to land 4th on small, player sized mobs like in Vault because their positional circle is so small, and with effects flying everywhere I often miss, resulting in a sad 200-230 damage Wheeling Thrust/F&C. Couldn't they have at least gave it like 180 potency from any direction, but 290 from the positional or something?

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Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

I hate trying to land 4th on small, player sized mobs like in Vault because their positional circle is so small, and with effects flying everywhere I often miss, resulting in a sad 200-230 damage Wheeling Thrust/F&C. Couldn't they have at least gave it like 180 potency from any direction, but 290 from the positional or something?

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I've noticed that too. I've had all party and mob effects disabled ever since I did T6 the first time, which helps, but it's still hard if the tank likes moving around. The 4ths are bloody useless if you don't get the positional, but considering our raw output I think that's fair enough at this point.

EDIT: I'd like to talk about helmets. Using our old statweights, the Valerian helmet is better by about 7-ish relative STR when compared to the unupgraded Law helmet. The Law helmet does have lots of crit though, and considering the changes to crit perhaps it is better anyway?

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Originally Posted by rickyguo

finally 60 boys

the i145 weapon ravana struggles, did like 600 ROFL

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This topic wouldn't be right, without a Yan weapon struggle.

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Originally Posted by seekified

I've noticed that too. I've had all party and mob effects disabled ever since I did T6 the first time, which helps, but it's still hard if the tank likes moving around. The 4ths are bloody useless if you don't get the positional, but considering our raw output I think that's fair enough at this point.

EDIT: I'd like to talk about helmets. Using our old statweights, the Valerian helmet is better by about 7-ish relative STR when compared to the unupgraded Law helmet. The Law helmet does have lots of crit though, and considering the changes to crit perhaps it is better anyway?

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#whenyoupresswheelingthrustandyoujustgotaggro

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Originally Posted by ColdestHeaven

#whenyoupresswheelingthrustandyoujustgotaggro

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Still smile every time I rip my main target off the tank. ;)

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Originally Posted by seekified

EDIT: I'd like to talk about helmets. Using our old statweights, the Valerian helmet is better by about 7-ish relative STR when compared to the unupgraded Law helmet. The Law helmet does have lots of crit though, and considering the changes to crit perhaps it is better anyway?

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If I can't get updated weights before the 8th July, next time you'll get them is the 1st, unless people do a massive data-collection survey for me, then I might be able to sort something out whilst I'm away. I'll need A LOT of Data Points to recalculate the damage formula as I don't believe DET is the only thing that's changed.

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Originally Posted by Dervy

If I can't get updated weights before the 8th July, next time you'll get them is the 1st, unless people do a massive data-collection survey for me, then I might be able to sort something out whilst I'm away. I'll need A LOT of Data Points to recalculate the damage formula as I don't believe DET is the only thing that's changed.

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Prolly easier if you hit me up ingame now that we're on the same server if there's something I can help you test - my monitoring of these forum threads come and go in waves so I tend to miss stuff. :p

So, I was getting extremely frustrated with DRG. To the point that I had begun leveling MNK. This mainly stemmed from the fact that as I got closer and closer to 179, my DPS seemed to lag considerably behind what I knew it should be based on various parses I'd seen from people at a similar gear level.

I spent hours last week trying to perfect my rotation. Yet I couldn't seen to break 750-800 dps sustained no matter how hard I tried. I'd begun to despair that maybe I just sucked at DRG.

That was until Saturday night. My static was putting together our first BIS EX run and decided to test all the DPS going since some of us were on new classes. Our NIN had been bragging all night about sustaining 1k DPS, so I wasn't particularly hopeful. We had a BRD, NIN, SMN, and myself DRG ready to go then we started the contest. We parsed for about 3 1/2 minutes and when the dust settled they read off the rankings.

1100 DPS sustained. Guess my parser is broken >.<