It's about time to add Coil story mode, isn't it ?

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Originally Posted by NyneAlexander

After further consideration, I would rather the devs put resources towards making long hair styles not clip with clothing instead of developing a story mode anything.

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Why can't they put their resources towards both of those things?

Because opportunity cost is why. Everything ever made on this planet takes time and energy. Every dollar and manpower minute spent on story mode is a dollar and manpower minute taken from something else. You can't just "have both" because time and energy are things you don't get back. It's really not complicated.

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Originally Posted by Izsha

Because opportunity cost is why. Everything ever made on this planet takes time and energy. Every dollar and manpower minute spent on raid only a negligible fraction will experience is a dollar and manpower minute taken from something else. You can't just "have both" because time and energy are things you don't get back. It's really not complicated.

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I see the point people make. Bad or not. I just wanted to point out that. You can't trash "story" reasons because "that could be spent elsewhere", while people are asking for more difficult raids which would raise the exact same argument. If an argument can be used on both end of the rope, you are going nowhere with it.

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Originally Posted by LegendWait

I'm astonished to see people having so much trouble with ONE fight, if you really wanna beat t5, just read about it , train and beat it.

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After you clear turn 5 once, it turns into a loot piñata. Same with turn 9.

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Originally Posted by Shioban

[1] Original Concept/Battle Design - (Too Difficult for main-stream raiding)
[2] Watered Down "Normal Raid" through various adjustments
[3] Savage Mode based on Original Concept
[4] Story Mode, simple or no fights altogether

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Savege isn't based on the Original working version, it is the original version :D So it's just a matter of patching it in.

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Originally Posted by Yoninxi

*slow blink* As if 20% echo in The first coil and soon to be second coil isnt enough

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Doesn't save you from instant death mechanics though does it.

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Originally Posted by NyneAlexander

After further consideration, I would rather the devs put resources towards making long hair styles not clip with clothing instead of developing a story mode anything.

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Maybe a new awkward emote, too. Those are very important, after all.

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Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi

Doesn't save you from instant death mechanics though does it.

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No, but moving a few steps isn't really a difficult thing to do either, and all that echo helps you meet DPS checks you otherwise wouldn't make with half of your party dead.

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Originally Posted by Lilyanna

What good are 'friends' if you can't be honest? I'm in a static with a healer buddy and if he does something bad, I tell him, and if I mess up, he tells me. I tell my own husband that he needs to improve if he's not doing what he is suppose to.

I'm not going to lie to someone and tell them they are doing good when they aren't, friend or not. If you can't be honest with your friend(s) then what kind of friendship is that?

Back to OP: Doesn't bother me either way, if no loots and no unlocks, then it shouldn't effect anything/anyone.

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I hope you are giving tips on how to improve because telling someone that he needs to improve without telling how is kind of mute point since he will have no clues where to improve and how ?

Besides, I am pretty sure you not going to kick your buddy friend or husband as opposed to someone you dont know right when that someone messes up ?

I would call this hypocrite ...wouldnt you ?

IN this thread there is so much of higher then though attitude that is annoying to say the least, as if everybody that is that higher then though were born with insta knowledge when probably they might have been carried or had friends to put up with their dumbness for long period of times until they got it right...

again hypocrite ? yeah very muchs o

Mei

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Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial

No, but moving a few steps isn't really a difficult thing to do either, and all that echo helps you meet DPS checks you otherwise wouldn't make with half of your party dead.

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It might not be difficult for you, but it is for other people. Debating about the level of difficulty of a fight is 100% opinion. People constantly getting KOed on Twisters and not being able to evade dives and getting pushed to the edge is a fact. I've helped a number of people in there and it's always the same.

But aside from that response to saeedaisspecial, to the entire group of people who oppose the story mode of this dungeon:

It doesn't affect any of us in the least. Anyone can still clear that on its original difficulty by jumping on i75 gear and clicking the Echo off. If storymode is added there's no reason this should change. So what's the negative part of this addition to your playstyle? Nothing? So it's selfishness then?