Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

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Originally Posted by BristolRuss

Hey guys, now that Carbon Twines are available outside of Final Coil (and WoD is here), are the upgraded Poetics gloves a better choice than the Astrum ones? This is my gear currently. I don't need any additional accuracy for now, so I'm only really interested in gloves that would improve my damage.

Any viable pieces? Or am I better waiting until I get the Dreadwyrm ones from Final Coil?

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I would say it depends on if your having problems with dps in T10 and 11. At your current gear level you should be good enough to do T10 and T11 easily. The gloves would be a major boost especially if you upgrade it with a twine. You would be getting an extra 7 strength. The problem you will run into is accuracy cap for T12 and T13 in the future which the Dreadwyrm gloves will help you reach. I would personally say hold out till you get the gloves from T10.

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Originally Posted by Aiurily

the current drg bis non-crafted uses all leftside poetics except the belt.

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As far as I know, head, gloves and belt are from coil. Where's that 410DET set that Dervy posted?

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Originally Posted by Dunncan

As far as I know, head, gloves and belt are from coil. Where's that 410DET set that Dervy posted?

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I dont know about crafted BiS, but as far as coil and Dreadwyrm go you want dreadwyrm helm, gloves, belt, neck, and ring. All the rest is poetics.

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Originally Posted by Dunncan

As far as I know, head, gloves and belt are from coil. Where's that 410DET set that Dervy posted?

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http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/O7H5 is the 410 det, 0 skillspeed build
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PD79 is the bis with current weights, having 2.019 more str weighted (from skillspeed, granted)

i'll still go for the 410 det build though, since i already have all the leftside dreadwyrm pieces minus the spear.

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Originally Posted by Aiurily

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PD79 is the bis with current weights, having 2.019 more str weighted (from skillspeed, granted)

i'll still go for the 410 det build though, since i already have all the leftside dreadwyrm pieces

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Don't know if someone is really taking seriously that "BiS".

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Originally Posted by Sergeant

I dont know about crafted BiS, but as far as coil and Dreadwyrm go you want dreadwyrm helm, gloves, belt, neck, and ring. All the rest is poetics.

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Only talking about Left Side.

Also. Ive never posted in the forums before. Hello Fellow Dragoons. Nice to meet you all. I know I will learn a lot from all of you

471 pages, 4000 post. Totally not gonna read all that LOL so I shall post my question.

I am currently playing a DRG as a Sub-main and just wondering what is a good optimal rotation for Trash pulls in dungeons. The rotation the OP posted, from what I've understood is for bosses or single target in general but not for trash pulls at the size of 3. At 4+ mobs I know i should just AoE.

So far I've been told to:
1) Phlebotemize everything and 1-2-3 main target
2) Heavy thrust and phlebot target 1, Chaos Thrust Combo on target 2 and 1-2-3 target 3 until target 3 dies.
3) Treat it all just like a single target and do Chaos Thrust Combo and Full thrust combo until dead and move onto next target (issue with this one is by the time Chaos thrust goes off, target is almost dead and wont get a full, Full thrust combo in)

Thanks

Thanks for the help guys. There are other pieces of left side gear I will upgrade first, but it's good to know the gloves will be an upgrade when I get to them.

Edit: Unless of course I get the Dreadwyrm gloves before then!

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Originally Posted by Dunncan

Don't know if someone is really taking seriously that "BiS".

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still bis in numbers, despite skillspeed being 5.742 str worth of weight, having 370 does let you get an extra hit in during BfB (which is unaccounted for in testing afaik and a sizeable dps increase imo). if there were a 4* version of black truffle risotto and if we could turn that 5 excess accuracy into any other stat, the former set would be better, but those things aren't possible right now.

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Originally Posted by Aiurily

still bis in numbers, despite skillspeed being 5.742 str worth of weight, having 370 does let you get an extra hit in during BfB (which is unaccounted for in testing afaik and a sizeable dps increase imo). if there were a 4* version of black truffle risotto and if we could turn that 5 excess accuracy into any other stat, the former set would be better, but those things aren't possible right now.

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Since the last tests Dervy was running, where the more weight gear were not necessarily the most DPS, I'm very cautious about this minor SS increases. But it's a personal matter. I don't feel confortable with so many poetics peaces either. Just don't looks like "right".

But I would go for it if I had that bad lucky with FCoB drops, for sure.