Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Edit-- finally home

Skill 1 looks a lot like divine seal with synastry's sound effect. Willing to bet it's the cross class Affection skill. Yay! Cross class! >.<;

Skill 3: Group Tetra! Yay more heals! Because that's what white mage totally needs is more heals amirite? Instant cast-- that's most likely why there's no lily generation. You get lilies for casted heals, not for instants.

Skill 4- This one looks as washed up as the white mage using it. Pun intended. I am not sorry. At least Balmung white mages can now wash themselves when they are dirty #Yay4Balmung

Skill 5- Is that? Yes, yes, I think it is.... yet ANOTHER HEAL. Group Tetra just wasn't enough. Note: Casted heal + lily

Barrier Skill (is this like 6 or something now?) -- Yes! It's Adloquium or perhaps group casted that makes it... Succor! Don't we all feel like suckers now getting a mechanic that allows us to cast Scholar spells that they can spam when we need to heal 3 times to gain access to them! I am so impressed!

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This post is meant to be sarcastically aggressive and punny as a means of releiving a bit of stress and having a bit of fun. It's sarcasm.
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On that note, what self respecting game company or any company for that matter would purposefully troll their customers. You want people to be excited to entice them to buy. Not make them angry

Aww hell I wrote all that on my phone and can't edit it in？ lame... ah well angsty sarcastic post will have to wait

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Originally Posted by Reiryuu

Skill 1 looks a lot like divine seal with synastry's sound effect.

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Same thing I said. I would not be surprised if the pure healer got it exclusively!!

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Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

.... SE wants content that can be cleared by any composition.

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Your point is the same counter point to any unique ability each of the healers can bring. The only reason cure Iii is the odd man out is bc ast offer more party dps while maintaining eHps paired with sch.


A11s photon whirlwind combo makes great use cure3 or any other combo bc SE wants content that can be cleared by many compositions. You can shield and mitigate and provide the raid less instant Hp. Or you can burst heal thru the mech.

If you precast into the photon whirlwind combo it allows TWO gcds before the 18k unmitigated whirlwind hits. Remember photon brings all affected players down to critical health (<1%).

By design this mech allows for multiple ways to deal with it, which includes a cure3 method. And if you had no smn with the ast co healer or just a sch (king healer), you would certainly need cure 3.

Note: I've not verified this myself get, but some guy said debuffs are multiplied not added....so just to keep it simple we'll add it anyways and mention the actual mitigmitigation is potentially less.

-Whirlwind dmg 18k unmitigated
Delirium 10% dmg down
Storm's path 10% dmg down
Sacred soil 10% dmg down
Red mind 5% dmg down
Virus 15% dmg down
E4e* 10% dmg down
CU 10% dmg down (plus 1 tick of 150 potency regen in the photon whirlwind window)
Fey conv 20% magic def= avg out to 8-10% dmg down ppl say*****

Edit -ilv 270 was a baaaaad example. Should have calculated at ilv255.

At ilv 270 no echo 300 potency =4k dmg/heals. So image with a sch/ast combo.You'd need a combo of the mitigation listed above to reduce the inc whirl down to 600 potency (2 gcds) from ast and 850 potency (3 gcds to include the succor pre photon shield and indom).

(Note yes this is one example. There are several ways sch can address this mech sequence. With emergency with dissipation. With adlo delpoy...etc, but the point is sch could not address it the same way each time.)

So combined potency available nominally between sch and ast for this mech is 1450 potency which at ilv270 no echo = 19k hp???


However with a whm only using divine seal and assize (60 sec and 90 sec cds respectively) you could solo heal each photon whirlwind combo mech with no help, no mitigation, no shilelds, consistently the same way each sequence. 1730 potency (2 gcds of cure3 with divine + assize) = 23k HP.

Someone post what an ilv 255, 300 potency heal does. And we can redo the math. But i think it's somewhere around 2k. Which would make ast/sch combined 1450 potency = 9.6k raid heals (muuucchh in need of additional mitigation) and whm solo of 1730 potency= 11.6k (in need of much mitigation or a co healer to cover 6.4k heals/shields in two gcds).

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Originally Posted by javid

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I was wondering, you take WHM cure III with divine seal, but you take AST and SCH without synastry/fairy heal boost?
why?

i may have missed something for the 1450 potency, here is what i can count:

Sch (no regen from fairy) =>fairy heal boost, succor (180 heal 180 shield), ET succor (360 heal), indom 400 for 940 heal+180 shield (and potencialy 20% of its cohealer too, with the fairy boost)
AST (no regen) => synastry + helios twice for 720. (possibility of lightspeed for 3 heal in the same gcd of 2, making it goes to 1080)
WHM (no regen still) => divine seal + cure IIIx2 (715*2) + assize (300) = 1730

which makes AST + SCH do (shield+heal) 1120 (sch) + 1296ww (AST 1080+20% from sch) for 2416 raid aoe, which is far above the 1450.

You can argue that lightspeed has a high cooldown (150s), so you can remove it if you want, making it 864 for AST (720+20% sch), for a total of 1984.

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Originally Posted by LadyKairi

- Unknown Skill #2: This one shows to be a heal that they used on the party member, based on how a second lily glows upon its use. Also seems to activate the previous used buff, judging by the effect the WHM gets after its use.

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My thinking is that this is a new animation for Cure I, maybe II. BRD's Windbite and Venomous Arrow seem to have been updated judging from the video, so it's possible other skills will be getting new looks as well.

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Originally Posted by Reivya

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My thinking is that this is a new animation for Cure I, maybe II. BRD's Windbite and Venomous Arrow seem to have been updated judging from the video, so it's possible other skills will be getting new looks as well.

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https://gamerescape.com/2017/05/30/f...lysis-healers/

RIP.

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Chance to gain a Lily.

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They went full ultra retard.

Chance.. Sigh...

Ok, now we can complain I think :/
Besides Thin Air which is amazing, and what lilies do... Well...

At least they will be powerful healers that's for sure but... This is not what I expected