Do you think bard desired a nerfing soon.

If they were to nerf their damage or mobility, I'd rather they give them back their songs from Ver 1 and CNJ sub class back. Being a complete support class I'm fine with but they are not because there is no such thing. So as long as BRD is DPS then it doesn't need a nerf, it's fine how it is.

I'm generally worried SE will do something that will break the class, Archer is the only class I feel is fun. I guess I could always craft or gather full time until Musketeer comes out.

Please don't nerf mobility... it's what makes the class fun. Kiting trash in PvE or solo quests...Off tank kiting an aggro pull by yourself. Just being able to run around and shoot feels more active and fun. Please don't take it away...

I just don't want them to take my running while shooting. I love the kiting aspect of the bard. I dont care if they nerf the damage output....i just want to run free x.x

That's right run around like a headless chicken and don't let the tank regain his threat back and the melee dps slow or stun.

I just hope and pray the nerf hammer isn't too severe. I wont quit over it but I daresay some would.

Eh. I feel like I definitely do more damage than some classes as BRD, but I also know some classes do more dmg than me. But, whatevs; I'm not sure what the role of bard is supposed to be. I just know that I liked it before it was popular. /hipster :P Still, a proposed nerf makes me nervous; buffs to other classes would be better, I think, especially with how unforgiving end-game can be.

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Originally Posted by fauxpas

funny how all complaints about bards are from monks and dragoons? why why wouldent a bard stick up for his class when some asshat makes stupid claims about something that they realyl dont know about

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I know the feeling, everyone need to be special.

Bard is the job I wanted to play specifically because I fell in love with the mobility, proc based play, and support elements of the class. I kinda am a bit scared with the patch in 2.1 based off SE's history with nerfs from the FFXI days. That and I don't want to be a stationary caster... i want to be able to run around, kite, shoot, dodge, duck, and weave. Right now, I'm frankly terrified they will make the class basically unplayable.

That all being said, are bards too good now? Absolutely not.
Could they need some adjusting? Maybe
If you had to adjust anything what would it be? Make it require 15 CNJ instead of 15 PGL, remove cross class abilities from PGL and replace with cross class from CNJ (that means losing Internal Release but gaining actual support abilities, just like bard should have been from the start)

That would bring back a few more of the support roles Bards should have had, while still being a good DPS with no major tweaking to the job needed.

Now I am saving my mythos (925) atm and leveling/gearing my DRG, because I am not sure what to expect. I kinda think that they will mess up the nerf and BRD will be useless. Yes, there will still be need for BRDs in coil T1,T2 but every DPS classes will be better. DRG is awesome now, after the buff it will be even better. BLM has higher dps, better lb... I wish I knew about the nerf earlier. :D

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Originally Posted by Sindalis

... replace with cross class from CNJ (that means losing Internal Release but gaining actual support abilities, just like bard should have been from the start)

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Huh?
What support abilities would we get from Conj?
Can't cast Raise in combat.
MND is EXTREMELY low, so cure would hit for ~100.
Protect is 100% redundant.

So that leaves Stoneskin?
You want to trade away the best possible cross class damage buff that we have for a weak (untraited) stoneskin that would run us out of mana in 3 casts and prevent us from being able to sing Foe?

Come on now... that wouldn't make us any more support oriented.
It would end up being a fairly significant damage nerf at endgame, and give us virtually nothing to show for it.