Male Viera... Unsubbing for now.

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Originally Posted by SunAurel

OK then name one

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Moogle skeletons.

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Originally Posted by Wynn_Storm

Moogle skeletons.

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haha, and next time you'll tell me that sephirot doesn't use a lalafell skeleton.

either you can tell me of a Hyur using the Lalafell skeleton or I'm just gna scribe that down as that you don't know of one.

Fran uses the Elezen skeleton, therefore Viera will also use the Elezen skeleton.

Races with similar body types WILL share skeletons because it takes less resources. Hrothgar and Roe have a similar body type, therefore they can use the same skeleton,

Male Miquote and Male Midlander are similar in build, so they share a skeleton
Lalafells are unique in their physique, therefore they have an individual one
Male AuRa and Elezen also share one I believe, height and build suggest they do.
Viera are tall and slim, therefore the Elezen skeleton is already a perfect fit.

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Originally Posted by SunAurel

haha, and next time you'll tell me that sephirot doesn't use a lalafell skeleton.

either you can tell me of a Hyur using the Lalafell skeleton or I'm just gna scribe that down as that you don't know of one.

Fran uses the Elezen skeleton, therefore Viera will also use the Elezen skeleton.

Races with similar body types WILL share skeletons because it takes less resources. Hrothgar and Roe have a similar body type, therefore they can use the same skeleton,

Male Miquote and Male Midlander (and Lupin btw) are similar in build, so they share a skeleton
Lalafells are unique in their physique, therefore they have an individual one
Male AuRa and Elezen also share one I believe, height and build suggest they do.
Viera are tall and slim, therefore the Elezen skeleton is already a perfect fit.

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To be fair you said name any npc that doesn't share a skeleton with a player npc. So i said moogles. Maybe be more specific next time? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Originally Posted by Wynn_Storm

To be fair you said name any npc that doesn't share a skeleton with a player npc. So i said moogles. Maybe be more specific next time? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Context and the previous conversations clearly suggested two characters of the same race, clan, and gender using a different skeleton, one of them being an npc.

You said just because Fran uses Elezen doesn't mean Viera has to use Elezen, because "Player characters and npc's don't always use the same skeletons"

so it was pretty clear that it meant two characters of the same race and gender (one of them being a PC) and one NPC not sharing the same skeleton.

With the exceptions of the Garleans because they have 3 skeletons (Elezen (Nero & Lydia), Zenos (his skeleton is even classified as Monster, so it might actually be unique) , and Hyur) that won't happen.

Though Garleans are not a playable race.

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Originally Posted by SunAurel

Fran uses the Elezen skeleton, therefore Viera will also use the Elezen skeleton.

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She's using a heavily edited version of the Elezen skeleton, so it's no longer just an elezen skeleton, it's now the Veira skeleton since it's been modified to work with her character proportions.
Larger hands, longer fingers, a slimmer torso and a custom sculpted head, longer legs, completely different feet and leg structure and over all different limb proportions.

Just because it used an established skeleton as a base doesn't mean it's the exact same skeleton. Otherwise you're saying a male Huyr, Rog, Au Ra and Mi'qote all share the exact same structure, which they don't.

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Originally Posted by SunAurel

Context and the previous conversations clearly suggested two characters of the same race, clan, and gender using a different skeleton, one of them being an npc.

You said just because Fran uses Elezen doesn't mean Viera has to use Elezen, because "Player characters and npc's don't always use the same skeletons"

so it was pretty clear that it meant two characters of the same race and gender (one of them being a PC) and one NPC not sharing the same skeleton.

With the exceptions of the Garleans because they have 3 skeletons (Elezen (Nero & Lydia), Zenos (his skeleton is even classified as Monster, so it might actually be unique) , and Hyur) that won't happen.

Though Garleans are not a playable race.

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Yugiri in ARR used a Miqo'te skeleton. So Fran using an Elezen one can't be indicative yet.

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Originally Posted by Alucard135

Yugiri in ARR used a Miqo'te skeleton. So Fran using an Elezen one can't be indicative yet.

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Thanks! That's indeed indicative

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Originally Posted by van_arn

imagine quitting a game over cosmetics

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Ironicly the same people that unsubbed if we not had Viera at all also, see the pattern? Enough people complained to have those, in my eyes lazy race which they not even bothered to fit the lore in FFXIV like every other race to make males possible, but the demand was same as Bluemage, both Bluemage and Viera were high demand despite not working well with this code and or not able to fit right, yet here we are now, so why can't we demand male Viera if we scream loud and long enough like with Viera itself? See the irony?

People who call others salty about this should consider that even a minority are customers to this game and them leaving will cost income on this game like any other decision and since SE refuses to support this game and Yoshi and his team, decisions like this could mean a downfall to this game once again like 1.0.

Imagine all your gametime just gone when servers close, right?

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Originally Posted by Tabbs

I'm unsubbing until male Viera are added, sorry devs. I love the game, but I have been hoping for this for a really long time (well before Viera were confirmed or hinted at coming to the game). I understand this is probably a little childish, but I'm not worried about appearing that way.

I'm happy the Ronso crowd got their race, but I'm very disappointed we've yet again taken the route of "men big manly" and "women sleek sexy". Games with genderlocking in races and classes NEVER keep my attention. Black Desert looks great, for example, but my favorite classes are female only so I just can't bring myself to play it.

Unfortunately, between BLU, no male Viera, and (so far) no healer... I'm just really let down.

Please consider bringing us male Viera very soon.

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Yet you're still playing? Male Viera isn't the most important issue.... the real villain is FF16