NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

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Originally Posted by Mcshiggs

There are no scholars anymore, yet you can become a scholar. There are no warriors in the city states of Eorzea, one came from another land to teach folks. If they want to add thief in the future as a job, all they have to do is put in a backstory for an npc that used to be one, but left when they started cracking down on them and they went into hiding as rogues.

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I think that was also used to explain the other jobs like Black Mage

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Originally Posted by LoLo

It would be nice if we could get a Devs to confirm if there are no plans to add a Thief Job into the game because of the Rogue class existing.


Is the Rogue class the FFXIV ARR's version of the Thief job describe in this link: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Thief_(Job)?


Is the Thief job ruled out of being added into FFXIV ARR because of lore reasons?


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Additional Questions I have that I would like answers to but don't mind if not to be answered:


Should people see the Ninja Job in FFXIV ARR as a Thief Job instead because the class that Ninja job comes from is named Rogue?


Why do city states like Limsa allow Pirates to roam freely and even participate in army campaigns but Thieves are not allow to be in the city?

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Re-posting my questions for the devs. :D

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Originally Posted by LoLo

Re-posting my questions for the devs. :D

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It's the Stigma, you have to think about it,you have a guild called the "Thieves Guild" the city-people are going to be like "oh so now we're gladly allowing adventuerers to learn how to steal my hard earned gil and product what kind of leader would allow sucha guild to be formed in the first place. How dare these foreign people come to our land, take our goods, take our hospitality and then spit it back in our face by providing others with the means and knowledge of stealing even more from us. How ungrateful are these homeless foreigners to seek refugee into our nation only to forsake us with such a guild".

Does that help at all? Maybe it makes more sense when you think of it from the logical sense of the townspeople looking at this new guild formed by a foreigner that came into the land offering nothing more than the promise of her peoples work ethics.

The story for Rogue will most likely capitalize on the idea of them being looked down upon because of their name and history as they try to attempt to make a good name for themselves to show them that they are no longer the crooked thieves from the past, now using their skills to help fight the empire and train others in their ways to show them how much they have changed.

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Originally Posted by Airget

It's the Stigma, you have to think about it,you have a guild called the "Thieves Guild" the city-people are going to be like "oh so now we're gladly allowing adventuerers to learn how to steal my hard earned gil and product what kind of leader would allow sucha guild to be formed in the first place.

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That would make alot of sense....until you see that Limsa Lominsa has the MARAUDERS guild that is pretty much a front for pirates....

What I don't understand is what this obsession with the name "Thief"? Whats the difference with a FFXI Thief and a FFXIV Rogue? Because right know all I see is people complaining of not getting Thief while Rogue seems pretty much the same to me.

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Originally Posted by Wilhem

What I don't understand is what this obsession with the name "Thief"? Whats the difference with a FFXI Thief and a FFXIV Rogue? Because right know all I see is people complaining of not getting Thief while Rogue seems pretty much the same to me.

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Thief is an iconic job/profession/archetype in previous Final Fantasy games. The name has been tied to the role of a thief and thievery for over 10 FF titles. It's really that simple. The Japanese description for Rogue labels them as "Dual Fencers" as well, not thieves. Hence the obsession.

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Originally Posted by Wilhem

What I don't understand is what this obsession with the name "Thief"? Whats the difference with a FFXI Thief and a FFXIV Rogue? Because right know all I see is people complaining of not getting Thief while Rogue seems pretty much the same to me.

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The ability to play it at endgame, for the very starters. Seems like many iconic Thief abilities won't be included. It's not the same if you've ever played previous FFs. Definitely nowhere near as close as Marauder >> Warrior/Fighter.

Steal, Mug and Flee?

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Originally Posted by Exstal

Steal, Mug and Flee?

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Steal is a huge branch onto itself, then there's yokodama and hate control. That's also excluding all of the MMO specific things they could add that's new like they've done for every job, as both points have been explained multiple times.

It can't be iconic if it was only in a single game.