Time limit to re-enter dungeons

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Originally Posted by Nero

If they are that easy that you could grind through, then it is possible. We dont know the Timer on Repop's, We dont know the deal in general of the amount of Mobs, we dont know anything in general but 2 Things:

1. Re-enter is 5 Minutes
2. Yoshi himself stated that the Dungeons will be HARD!

So we will see.

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Yoshi-P HIMSELF also stated that he wanted dungeons to take part of the workload from groups that go out linking Leves. Just saying. And it doesn't matter how hard Dungeons are, as long as the SP is equivalent to the difficulty the SP will be worth it.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

We know that the people who are happy with this will be complaining they exhausted the content quickly, then comes the "told you so" group as well as the "SE screwed up again" crew.

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I'm happy with the 5 minute timer and I'll be just as happy when/if I get everything I need out of the dungeons. I have lots of other things I still need to do, please don't lump everyone together like that.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

We know that the people who are happy with this will be complaining they exhausted the content quickly, then comes the "told you so" group as well as the "SE screwed up again" crew.

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We are usually on the same side of the fence, but this time I disagree with you, though I know you are an intelligent person and definitely not just another troll.

My problem with the arguments for the "Lockout timers make the content last longer" is that we shouldn't need these artificial restrictions to make content last longer. Lockout timers don't create MORE content, they just create the illusion of more.

Am I the only one afraid that the drop rate of the better gear/drops in the dungeons will be like .0001% because there's no downtime? -_-

As an aside, super happy there isn't a 24 hour wait or some ridiculous BS. Glad to see SE moving away from the 'time consuming = challenging' mentality.

I know some of us were hoping for dungeons to be an alternative to grind parties, but without scaling caps, 99% of people won't want to gimp themselves with lower classes / un-optimal pt setups to go through them.

People did not learn from this apparently ,

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...highlight=5min

About time ya all realize were is this boat going.Some people really should move on already , it cant be clearer.

Disclaimer: i Do Not take sides on this discussion simply because i do not give a rarab tail about this, im worried about the quality of the content not re-enter timer.

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

Yoshi-P HIMSELF also stated that he wanted dungeons to take part of the workload from groups that go out linking Leves. Just saying. And it doesn't matter how hard Dungeons are, as long as the SP is equivalent to the difficulty the SP will be worth it.

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I dont see people doing that, if its to hard. Because there are easier ways than exping with linking leves. A regular SP-Group on regular Mobs can easy pull out 30k+/hour. If you get wiped out and have to recover and Stuff i will go back to regular SP-Grinds. But yeah.. like you say.. if the SP is equivalent to the difficulty, then it is possible to do it. But im also a little bit afraid of how the respawms work. We will know in a couple hours! .. Going to grab some Snacks now for the Fun-Night.. Have fun all of you and enjoy the new Stuff. ^^

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Originally Posted by Nero

I dont see people doing that, if its to hard. Because there are easier ways than exping with linking leves. A regular SP-Group on regular Mobs can easy pull out 30k+/hour. If you get wiped out and have to recover and Stuff i will go back to regular SP-Grinds. But yeah.. like you say.. if the SP is equivalent to the difficulty, then it is possible to do it. But im also a little bit afraid of how the respawms work. We will know in a couple hours! .. Going to grab some Snacks now for the Fun-Night.. Have fun all of you and enjoy the new Stuff. ^^

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Yeah, my argument on leveling in dungeons definitely hinges on the fact that you will get worthwhile SP in a dungeon. I make no pretenses that I have any idea what it is going to be like, I just wanted to bring up another point.

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Originally Posted by Nero

If they are that easy that you could grind through, then it is possible. We dont know the Timer on Repop's, We dont know the deal in general of the amount of Mobs, we dont know anything in general but 2 Things:

1. Re-enter is 5 Minutes
2. Yoshi himself stated that the Dungeons will be HARD!

So we will see.

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Unless "hard" = unbeatable with a 5 minute re-enter time everyone will have every item they want in a month. If they want to keep people happy until the game is "fixed", spoon feeding baddies is not the way to do it.

Drop rates =/= difficult of content.

Drop rates = Chance of item dropping once conditions are met.

I know you really want to be a special snowflake Visch but this game isn't for people who want to be elitist jerks who lord their "uber lootz" over people and think they're better than everyone else because of it.