Updated benchmark

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Originally Posted by Len_

I also humbly request for YoshiP to stop gaslighting the players by suggesting that we can "fine tune" changes we're not satisfied with in the character creator.

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Seconding this. The character creator completely lacks the sort of fine-tuning that would be required to get our characters looking as they were.

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Originally Posted by Risough

https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...816acf0a95.jpg

I've outlined the area I'm unhappy with above. You can see the wrinkle around the brow is much deeper and darker now. The shading and contrast give the impression that he's always angrier than before. It's especially noticeable when viewed top-down as in the images from my previous post.

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I was scrolling through the thread and this post stuck out to me. I feel this has aged the character without the decision of the creator. It should be offered as as option not a given.

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Originally Posted by Alya_F4

https://i.imgur.com/5jgO7HN.png

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Looks like a messed up normal map. Normal maps are usually used to fake depth and fine structures. But if you do it wrong then the results look very strange.



Cheers

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Originally Posted by Eluvyel

This doesn't look like it's part of the texture, that looks like a weird shadow from either the new lighting system or the new ambient occlusion options. Have you checked with AO entirely disabled if it remains?

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I just tried and it is still looks the exact same unfortunately

Reposting here in the big thread, its the same as what I said in the Viera specific feedback.

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Right: Live game (6.58), Left: Dawntrail Benchmark 1.1

The overall facial structure of my Viera face 2 bunny has changed in ways that kind of make me go like, "You're you, but you're also NOT you..."
I think the biggest issue for me right now is the shape of the mouth has been completely compressed into a line, so his expression is just :| :| :|
His mouth used to have more shape, including a soft, noticeable "M" in the lower part of the upper lip. I really miss it, it throws off the face for me.
They also, for some reason, shaved his entire jawline and chin so now he lost his squishiness. Sigh.

http://i.imgur.com/qDhAVP1.png
http://i.imgur.com/u8RvFJv.png
http://i.imgur.com/j09csSf.png

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I liked the lightning changes overall and how they fixed some textures. Still, I have issues with Face 7 midlander textures having noticeable "aging" lines in comparison with Face 5 in patch 6.58 and DT bench and Face 7 in patch 6.58

https://imgsli.com/MjU1NjEw this is an older comparison I did when Benchmark 1.0 released.
https://imgsli.com/MjY5NDI5 And this is the newest comparison: Bench 1.1 VS Patch 6.58.

I'd prefer they made those details around the eye optional or revert it back as it is in current patch.

I agree, the highlander face 4 looks different from the benchmark and should be reverted.

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Originally Posted by Vanitax

I liked the lightning changes overall and how they fixed some textures. Still, I have issues with Face 7 midlander textures having noticeable "aging" lines in comparison with Face 5 in patch 6.58 and DT bench and Face 7 in patch 6.58

https://imgsli.com/MjU1NjEw this is an older comparison I did when Benchmark 1.0 released.
https://imgsli.com/MjY5NDI5 And this is the newest comparison: Bench 1.1 VS Patch 6.58.

I'd prefer they made those details around the eye optional or revert it back as it is in current patch.

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Isn't face 7 meant to be modelled after the Warrior of Light posterboy?
If so SE might want that face to look more aged/endured because of all what the WoL have been through, through out all of the trailers etc.
Looking at a comparison between the 2 faces that share the same sculpt, the one that's not the WoL (original) doesn't show the same age to it.
So I just think they want the posterboy face to look more aged intentionally.
I mean, why else would they put in that extra work to one and not the other if not?
And it's not just the markings under the eyes, there are more subtle changes that adds to the aging look.

https://i.imgur.com/Zgcyegt.png
https://i.imgur.com/XiCzLDC.png

Can right-click to open a new window for each picture to see the differences better.

Decided to check out how one of my au'ra characters look before and after and they did succeed in keeping the feel of the character in her case. She really is just improved. I did spot a little glitch on one of the hairs though. Still some small things for them to fix! The pictures are not an amazing 1:1 having mismatched lighting but the features are much the same imo.

Current:
https://i.imgur.com/7fSAUHI.png


New Bench:

https://i.imgur.com/IBaOEfE.png


I wanted a kinda creepy looking girl and the glowing eyes is a plus in the update for me!

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Originally Posted by LlymlaenGreene

I did something stupid and asked for support from the reddit community. What a stupid thing that was. I gave them photos as an example, where it is visible to the naked eye, * I am silent about such details as different mouths, eye shape and so on* that the general appearance of the character looks different and I urge the community to pay attention to hyur's problems, all very politely and with words of love. And what do you think? No one agreed, lol, moreover, some even scoffed, while others just say, go into another character.

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Reddit may not appreciate your efforts but I—and surely others—do. Thank you for your service to middie gang!