What Zero Could've Been

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Originally Posted by Floortank

It's exactly the same pacing as Gaia X Ryne

Snarly, doesn't like, antagonistic, goes along in spite of herself, warms to us gradually, rinse and repeat.

We've seen it before. I don't mind it, but we've seen it before, and OP is acting like this is some new problem.

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Nowhere has it shown Zero doesn't truly like us nor has she been antagonistic either. She's straight forward n to the point. She goes along with us as a measure to keep her word.

Definitely wouldn't say we've seen it before, nor would I call it a problem

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

Nowhere has it shown Zero doesn't truly like us nor has she been antagonistic either. She's straight forward n to the point. She goes along with us as a measure to keep her word.

Definitely wouldn't say we've seen it before, nor would I call it a problem

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Yeah. For the moment, her relationship with the group is mostly transactional. She has, however, hinted at being able to tolerate everyone's company without the need for a give and take. So, I do picture her softening up eventually, I just hope it's not excessive like with certain other characters. Gaia and Ryne...that was such a weak plot all around, in my opinion. It all felt so rushed. They tried to replicate the whole Squall and Rinoa dynamic and I feel that they failed to capture what made that interesting and satisfying in the first place. I hope Zero has more time to grow.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Yeah. For the moment, her relationship with the group is mostly transactional. She has, however, hinted at being able to tolerate everyone's company without the need for a give and take. So, I do picture her softening up eventually, I just hope it's not excessive like with certain other characters. Gaia and Ryne...that was such a weak plot all around, in my opinion. It all felt so rushed. They tried to replicate the whole Squall and Rinoa dynamic and I feel that they failed to capture what made that interesting and satisfying in the first place. I hope Zero has more time to grow.

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I thought the pacing of Gaia and Ryne (I don't ship them like others do) was decent. It wasn't a strong point for me though. I do believe that has to do with the fact her character is tied to a raid series (tho the current one is REALLY good with its characters so eh...)

But yeah Zero benefits from being an msq character

Consideing how much the writing team has consistently shown loved to kill off our female cast or write them out I am glad Zero exists at all.

Also we HAVE had plucky and more feminine characters (Minfilia, Tataru, Krile and Lyse) and they are all on the recieving end of some kind of backlash. Frankly at this point I think people are just wanting a waifu character which I can get behind because we have so many male characters that are openly flirty with the MC for the het/bi girls and gay men but I wish people would be honest about that and not shit on a genuienly compelling new character.

Also Vtra being whiny? Since when. If my sister disappeared years ago in a self sacrificial move I would be a lot more distraught than him.

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Originally Posted by Graeham

We say it is bad to single the one person for all the burger anger when it is the sign show the bigger problem. There is so much of the problem with the bad diet. Grahad burger scene was bad because of the high cholesterol burger. The Zero it does not chew the apple properly and eat it drain apple with the spell. We know they is listen to the course corrector feedback from the silent majority and now offer the healthy food as well but must reinforcing the good eat tech. Please chewing the food it is danger choke risk. Must having the positive masculine role model not the bad.

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Damn right, how am I supposed to keep healthy when my damn friends eat burgers in front of me?
Apples aren’t any better either, all that sugar you might as well eat candy.
An apple a day only keeps the doctor away if you throw it at his head.