Asmongold on NSFW mods

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Given that posters have been banned for far less, I'd suggest that anybody advocating for illegal content to be embraced should receive a forum ban at the very least. Beyond that, as I've suggested elsewhere a greater presence on the part of our community representatives would arguably help deter the presence of discussion threads such as this one that go completely off of the rails.

FFXIV is a fun game and I enjoy playing it for the most part. It's not perfect and I certainly have my beef with it from time to time but unless it drops the ball with Endwalker I'm very likely to continue playing it for as long as it maintains my interest. With that in mind, I'd rather not see the game itself suffer because of a vocal minority of players becoming so brazen that they feel the need to actively promote things that they have agreed not to do.

Perhaps nothing will happen, though without going too deep into the debate there's proposals in some countries to tie people's online activities to their finances and other aspects of their lives.

Whether that actually manifests remains to be seen, of course, but stranger things have happened and I feel it is important for people to think ahead!

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First I do not think anyone was pro hyper realistic art for the record. Second a crusade agaisnt those that are in favor of not punishing individuals simply for existing. It is unfortunate that somene is attracted to children and if that person can use hentai or game characters to help them from physically harming a child or themselves I am all for it.

If that makes me a pedo defender or horrible person so be it I am already a freak / idiot by most peoples standards anyways.

I am big on innocent until proven guilty and I do not think having hentai or game characters is enough evidence to charge someone with a crime regarding CP so if it is not a good enough metric for the law our agreed upon rules why should it be good enough to witch hunt?

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Originally Posted by rance-sama

And I totally agree with you. Pedophiles and child-groomers deserve no less than rotting in prison. The problem is where you want to execute that crusade and it also involves the contribuition of all parties.
Don't want your children to be involved with pedophiles on the internet? Oversee them. Make sure they don't visit sites they shouldn't.
Want to fight pedophilia? Report actual cases to your authorities.
Complaining about pedophilia on an online forum for a videogame is as effective as blue/pink-haired women complaining about gender equality on the internet when there's places in this world that treat women like cattle.
I support the fight, I just don't think it's the correct place to spearhead such crusade.

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That's kinda strange, what do kids do when they are not in school or studying? They play games this game is rate T for teen right? So why would you not want it safe guarded? I don't care what two consenting adults do personally. But I do care about minors and to dismiss this is to ignore it. I am sure there are people n this game with less than pure motive when it comes to children. So what you are arguing is turning a blind eye. This is not acceptable by anyone I know with moral standards and who has a child's best interest at heart. The game developer is telling people not to do it period. But people are still doing it,so I really hope they put a stop to it. There is no gray area when it come to protecting children from the predators in society. This is exactly the place to spearhead the crusade against predators of children since it's a game for them as well as adults.

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Originally Posted by BaconBits

Wonder how Titanmen and his army of alts feel knowing that this thread riled up the forum community far more than the vast majority of anything he came up with.

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https://imgur.com/gallery/9Ui2t

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Originally Posted by BaconBits

Wonder how Titanmen and his army of alts feel knowing that this thread riled up the forum community far more than the vast majority of anything he came up with.

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one more thing to put on the checklist and bring up in a topic later, probably

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Originally Posted by Aniise

Wow, now the LGBTQ+ community got dragged into this mess.
Great.
Just great.

The length some people go to defend child predators in this thread is really concerning. The original topic was NSFW mods and now it has come to this. I...just can't...

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Seriously.

Went from NSFW mods to RPers, to pedos, to LGBTQ ... and not even kept on topic what the matter is really about.

Square Enix and being sued.

Posting this AGAIN because people are going is stupid directions that don't pertain to the issue at hand.

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Originally Posted by Plushy

Asmongold recently did a interview with someone on nsfw mods and lewd gposing.
If I remember right yoshi said this can be serious trouble for FFXIV because someone could look at a post of a lewd image of a lalafell or the twins/ ryne and learn its from FFXIV and this is what the game could show.

You think after this interview SE is gonna double down on bans? Seeing as asmon is one of the biggest MMO streamers its not hard to think a SE employee or two was watching.

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I can understand the concern. But there are a few things to keep in mind.

1. If you don't have your in game name attached to your pictures or your Twitter/where you post the pics, SE can't do anything.
2. The only people who can see the NSFW mods are those that installed it.

Now, I've had this happen to me. On another server I had a female character with a particular outfit on. Someone in my FC had a NSFW mod that would take the top from that outfit and make their male character look shirtless. But for females, it made them topless. That FC member proceeded to take a screenshot of my female character in this way and show me.

It was eyeroll inducing and kinda cringey, but nothing I could do about it. Only they and anyone who had that mod saw that.

RPing has zero to do with this. This is about mods to characters, not you in general. You =/= your pixel chracter.

The issue is this.

Using those NSFW mods on pixel characters owned by a company (SE) w/o their permission, and posted on the internet. That's it. It has nothing to do with you or me IRL.

I guarantee you there is at least one person on every server that has mods for their character of some kind, and can see your character in a different way. Not all mods are NSFW. Some give longer hair, permanent long nails, more body hair, bigger butts, etc.

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Originally Posted by AngelCheese77

Seriously.

Went from NSFW mods to RPers, to pedos, to LGBTQ ... and not even kept on topic what the matter is really about.

Square Enix and being sued.

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"How can I make this topic about me?"

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Originally Posted by Awha

First I do not think anyone was pro hyper realistic art for the record. Second a crusade agaisnt those that are in favor of not punishing individuals simply for existing. It is unfortunate that somene is attracted to children and if that person can use hentai or game characters to help them from physically harming a child or themselves I am all for it.

If that makes me a pedo defender or horrible person so be it I am already a freak / idiot by most peoples standards anyways.

I am big on innocent until proven guilty and I do not think having hentai or game characters is enough evidence to charge someone with a crime regarding CP so if it is not a good enough metric for the law our agreed upon rules why should it be good enough to witch hunt?

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If it matters of one persons opinion, I do not think you are an idiot or a freak. Despite many people spewing vitriol due to a intellectual debate, and attempting to claim things about you as a person just to get a rise out of you. You have literally not once assumed as others have what someone may or may not be. Most of the replies you have gotten were just people 'Reeeeing' and thinking they know who you are as a person by placing labels on you just to make themselves feel better. There was a silly song about 'assumptions making an ass out of you and me'. Most have gone that distance in spades. When you give them any information on you as a person they jumped all over it as if they finally had the perfect rebuttal. Even if it came off as being vindictive, and catty to others reading their posts.

What you have posted is how I feel on the matter as well. I honestly had commissions for a D&D home brew that had plant people who were 'small' within it. I was kind of terrified to even draw them because they were gender neutral, but could choose what parts they wanted. They were clearly not human, and all of the legal age character wise, but I still looked up laws in my state because artist have been getting flack for all kinds of dumb things, even just drawing characters who are short and flat chested. Apparently when speaking to a lawyer just to make extra sure there were no weird laws against cartoon comic book characters of this nature, they informed me it was just artwork, and not even of real people who existed. They also said the judges typically do not police artwork, which was kind of nice. Even drawing a lala, just a regular lala in their armor could be seen as 'horrible' for no reason at all just to use it as a means to harass someone about 'real children'. I am sorry but people make commissions so they could have artwork of their characters. I kind of hope that makes people convulse at there computer desks with pure rage.

If someone were to find any of my artwork to get off to, rather than harming an actual real life human, I am all for it no matter what disorders or chemical abnormalities they may have. People will find anything to wank off to, you never know what someone is doing in their free time, nor should anyone care unless it is breaking the laws and harming people.

No one in Japan are rounded up for reading goro hentai because they could one day do what the characters do within those hentai. No they don't just label the artist a murderer because of a fetish or something drawn. (Unless they are....are they? The artists are still posting, so I assume not, I may be wrong.)

On topic it is a mod that no one know any of these people have, as long as it does not give players an advantage within the multiplayer content allowing them to win in pvp or do as bots do and sink into the floor to kill bosses without taking damage so they can gold farm in seconds, 'do not install a mod' because it is 'against tos'. any mods even ones that can help you have audio queues as pop ups if you may be deaf or better lighting for those who get sensory overload even those. You naughty Eorzeans. No mods for you. 'Go play another game'.( for anyone who is wondering this may indeed be sarcasm)

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Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza

I think Battle may have just worded their sentence oddly. I'm left with the impression that they're anti-pedo and are critiquing the people who are 'crusading on their - the pedophiles - behalf'.

Correct me if I'm wrong, of course.

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What I'm saying is that the modders stay quiet on what they do. Where as in this topic, all sorts of things are being tossed around so loosely. Amusingly enough, Raelgun is exactly what I expected. Stupidity around. The whole Pedo thing wasn't even a thing until you guys forced it to be a thing.

Are we also going to call Skyrim NSFW modders pedophiles too? Hell, lets call all NSFW modders Pedophiles. Since that works for your disgusting agenda...

That's not directed at you but people like Raelgun.

This topic is the equivalent of people getting upset because some young teen found and was looking at some playboys. lol

Like big whoop.