An NPC you truly hate with passion

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Originally Posted by StriderShinryu

Eh, Zenos is only a mirror image of the player if, well, he is a mirror image of the player. The game seems to at times desperately want to portray him that way but the player (and their individual character) are undefined. so an actual proper "mirror image" is impossible. Just another reason Zenos is a complete failure and waste of space as a character.

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It is possible to create a mirror image of the players. Answer this one question: why do you play computer games? I guess, for the same reasons why Zenos is like he is. :)


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It was Alphinaud until 5.4 then it was G'raha still don't like Alphinaud but G'raha tops him now

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Originally Posted by Larirawiel

It is possible to create a mirror image of the players. Answer this one question: why do you play computer games? I guess, for the same reasons why Zenos is like he is. :)


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I think that hits on the problem, though. Not everyone plays games for the same reasons or in the same way; and they really do have to break the metaphorical fourth wall to accomplish it (mainly when he asks whether you enjoyed your journey or whatever it was), which again, different strokes for different folks with that sort of stuff. I don't really enjoy that kind of thing much and I suspect that's what's coming through when people express dislike of him. It's not enough to make him interesting to me.

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Originally Posted by Lauront

I think that hits on the problem, though. Not everyone plays games for the same reasons or in the same way; and they really do have to break the metaphorical fourth wall to accomplish it (mainly when he asks whether you enjoyed your journey or whatever it was), which again, different strokes for different folks with that sort of stuff. I don't really enjoy that kind of thing much and I suspect that's what's coming through when people express dislike of him. It's not enough to make him interesting to me.

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Och, Zenos said, that he does what he does only for this reasons: to feel something, excitement, this one moment etc. Is it really so different to an average FF14 player? And now imagine how an average garlean citizen would see the Warrior of Light: a slayer, who killed hundreds of Garleans only for excitement. ;) There is only one real difference between Zenos and the Warrior of Light: Zenos was always alone while the WoL has friends and allies. :)

I also do not like Zenos but mirroring the WoL in that kind of way i find it interesting. :)

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Originally Posted by Larirawiel

Och, Zenos said, that he does what he does only for this reasons: to feel something, excitement, this one moment etc. Is it really so different to an average FF14 player? And now imagine how an average garlean citizen would see the Warrior of Light: a slayer, who killed hundreds of Garleans only for excitement. ;) There is only one real difference between Zenos and the Warrior of Light: Zenos was always alone while the WoL has friends and allies. :)

I also do not like Zenos but mirroring the WoL in that kind of way i find it interesting. :)

Cheers

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The fundamental flaw in a character like that, though, is the lack of insight required to make it work.

What is his Endgame? Lets say he gets his 'one moment' - then what? He returns to sitting on his throne being bored?
(I'll note that I've only just started Endwalker and therefore am not aware of whether or not this point is actually addressed)