Cash shop confirmed

I do wonder, if someone can use a Jump potion on crafting/gathering classes so they can earn alot of Gil, does the potion become a pay2win item or not?

I am already paying $15/month and paying for the game and expansion packs. If they make a new mount or any kind of items they need to put it in game and put some game play around getting it to add additional content to the game. It's ridiculous they are expecting people to pay 3 times to get this stuff.

But people will lap it up like sheep so they will keep doing it.

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Originally Posted by SessionZero

Koji Fox said in the keynote at FanFest that Stormblood has triple the budget of Heavensward. Source: I was there, listening.

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I'll take your word for it then, excited to see what we'll get from the much larger budget. We're getting the same amount of areas and jobs most likely, so I hope it's not all dumped into advertising like most major titles.

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Originally Posted by Bluejay

I am already paying $15/month and paying for the game and expansion packs. If they make a new mount or any kind of items they need to put it in game and put some game play around getting it to add additional content to the game. It's ridiculous they are expecting people to pay 3 times to get this stuff.

But people will lap it up like sheep so they will keep doing it.

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They add a lot of stuff in game that are technically included with your subscription. Why not have fun with those? These additional items in the Mog Station? Pretend they don't exist. Because frankly, they aren't for you.

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Originally Posted by SessionZero

Koji Fox said in the keynote at FanFest that Stormblood has triple the budget of Heavensward. Source: I was there, listening.

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And do we have any source on how much of that increased budget was due to the cash shop? Assuming 700,000 subscribers (reasonably safe assumption based off of unofficial censuses), they should be making about $125 million USD off of subscriptions alone. That's 250 million USD revenue per 2 years (time per expansion). Take off 35 million, and that's still 215 million left over for expenses, salary and profit for the company.

It seems possible that the cash shop helped increase the budget, but it also seems possible that it hasn't. I'm pretty sure that the increased budget is probably due to less money being taken away from the FFXIV profits to fund FFXV development now than previously.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

And do we have any source on how much of that increased budget was due to the cash shop?

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No idea. I thought she was just unsure of the increased budget for Stormblood, not where it came from. I always figured cash shop sales were just icing on SE's cake.

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Originally Posted by SessionZero

No idea. I thought she was just unsure of the increased budget for Stormblood, not where it came from. I always figured cash shop sales were just icing on SE's cake.

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Ah yeah, the line of replying posts started with implying the budget for the expansion was due to the cash shop. I just don't think that's the case. I agree with you, it's most likely just icing on SE's cake.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

Ah yeah, the line of replying posts started with implying the budget for the expansion was due to the cash shop. I just don't think that's the case. I agree with you, it's most likely just icing on SE's cake.

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Nah, I wouldn't attribute the increased budget to the cash shop. I'd say the most likely scenario is sub numbers plus more faith from SE's top brass in the profitability of the game contributed to the increased budget.

It's sad reading that collection of comments from players in the opening post. They predicted how the cash shop would develop with total accuracy, and were slammed down for weeks on months on end by the deniers that it wouldn't go that way. Now that it has, I wonder how those people feel. Have they sided with those opposing the cash shop because it's grown in a way they said it wouldn't? Or have they just continued defending the double dipping and content stripping?