Please Allow 50's to Enter Ishgard w/o having completed MSQ

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Originally Posted by Souljacker

Personally I think it's another misstep in a long history of missteps. A new expansion is an opportunity to put everyone on a more-or-less level playing field. Welcome new\returning players into the game and all tackle new content together. That won't happen with this game because so much stuff is gated behind old events. I'm not sure if SE just is trying to control the population by making unpopular decisions or if they really believe that new players (and crafters, for that matter) should be gated from new content they they paid for, but it's a questionable position to take.

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You are gated from "new content that you paid for" the second you set foot into your respective nation. This is a game that is built around progression, gates are essential by design. Without gates you wouldn't have a sense of progress, and without a sense of progress you would be complaining that nothing seems worthwhile, and there's nothing to do.

This thread is not about "new players", that's just a straw-man. You guys just sound bitter about not being able to get into Ishgard with your crafting mules, and RP alts.

It's been pointed out time and time again that you will gain boosted exp from the story. What took nearly a month of consistent play to complete will now take at LEAST half that time. If you want your alts in Ishgard just power through it when HW drops. You'll even get some bonus exp from the level 50 quests.

Screw that, im looking forward to having no gilsellers spamming messages all day. Just frackin do it, only take you a few days. Stop being lazy, say no to entitlements just for being alive.

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Originally Posted by Earendur

Screw that, im looking forward to having no gilsellers spamming messages all day. Just frackin do it, only take you a few days. Stop being lazy, say no to entitlements just for being alive.

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You are still going to be /tell'd to the depths of the abyss and back.

They cant send me tells if they cant auto data mine my name from the zone.

13 days to release and you think this is going to happen?

Doubt it.

Not that MSQ is hard to complete.

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Originally Posted by Tuathaa

An average of 2 weeks is believable but less than a week isn't going to happen with an average or even an above average player.
1)Length time so do the msq isn't the issue in this post. 2)It's about the people who have specifically played the game from a crafters perspective (which has been supported and encouraged by SE) who do not have any level 50 battle classes are not allowed to play the expansion.

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Sorry late reply as i'm working and leveling GSM atm lol.


@1-Welcome to internet forums! In long meandering threads like this one, the point of the thread is going to..you know...meander.

@2-And that was their choice. Gonna sound a bit harsh, but sucks to be them. So to speak, they paid their money and took their chances.


FFXIV has one of the most accommodating crafting systems i've seen in my yrs playing mmos, but at its core this game is about killing the baddie and saving the world. And while you are technically contributing to the saving of the world supplying the guys on the front lines with weapons, armor. etc. via the MB, the truth of it is-you baked a cake.

If a player actively chooses to disregard a major facet of the game, its just pretty disingenuous for them to come back later and cry foul when they learn the bit they ignored is even more important than they thought. It is not like the main quest is hidden or you have to work to keep track of it, the game practically grabs you by the shoulders and pushes you at it. You have to assiduously work to ignore it and you can't do even that 100% because the main quest is connected to so many different parts of the game.

I could continue, but it is unnecessary. Your reasoning backing the OP's incredibly myopic and self-serving request just doesn't fly.

I am glad you have to level a battle class to 50. I know someone with 7 alts that have lvl 10 battle classes that she bots with. She is quite pissed with this. She has also posted in this topic lol. This puts her out of business for new gathering nodes until she catches up.

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Originally Posted by Rath

I am glad you have to level a battle class to 50. I know someone with 7 alts that have lvl 10 battle classes that she bots with. She is quite pissed with this. She has also posted in this topic lol. This puts her out of business for new gathering nodes until she catches up.

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And yet people will still say it's about the new players and not about them having to grind on alts.

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Originally Posted by AnaviAnael

And yet people will still say it's about the new players and not about them having to grind on alts.

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That sounds almost like something a political ad would say:
"The privileged get to advance while the common man falls behind with little opportunity. Vote for me and I'll make sure the hardworking man gets what they're entitled to."

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Originally Posted by Tuathaa

An average of 2 weeks is believable but less than a week isn't going to happen with an average or even an above average player.
Length time so do the msq isn't the issue in this post. It's about the people who have specifically played the game from a crafters perspective (which has been supported and encouraged by SE) who do not have any level 50 battle classes are not allowed to play the expansion.

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I find it amusing that you are complaining "from a crafters perspective," yet you don't have one single crafting job leveled past 5. You also don't have a single gathering job leveled past 8. So, to me, sure sounds like you are complaining just for the sake of complaining.