FF14 director Yoshida asks fans not to “attack” Wuk Lamat actress

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

i am very concerned about the lack of action regarding this VA

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Ok and what do you expect, a public dismissal during the live letter?

SE famously moves at a glacial pace to implement anything. They've seen her tweets and the community discussion, what they do next will not be seen for a year or so, probably. At most they will not rehire her for further roles following Wuk's inevitable sideline.

This thread is now pointless.

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Originally Posted by Willemdarke

Ok and what do you expect, a public dismissal during the live letter?

SE famously moves at a glacial pace to implement anything. They've seen her tweets and the community discussion, what they do next will not be seen for a year or so, probably. At most they will not rehire her for further roles following Wuk's inevitable sideline.

This thread is now pointless.

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honestly, as long as they do not involve themselves with her for future work. id be pretty satisfied. its not like anyone wants wuk lamat back anyway

What Kupo-Nuts did yall eat ?
If the VA is "special" on X or not is completly irrelevant. The perfomance was all over the place and NOT good. Done. That she is of a certain sexuality has no place here or relevance. The VA's perfomance is the scale we measure and if its fitting is what matters and in that regard it was not good. Why do you push the sexuality and preferences of the VA? You all mad? If the VA is black, white, purple checkered and in love with a god damn lamp post is for me absolutly insignificant. She can do in her bedroom what the hell she wants. This is FF14 and i want a good VA for it. And to tell the truth "That's ain't it chief"

Also her stuff on twitter is discriminatory and sexist and even in parts a call to crime. So all the "you are transphobic" and "she is okay and not that bad" are you okay with somebody representing you that is sexist and discriminatory? I thought you want to fight that crap?
As if i would say " i go vegan" and the first thing i do is eating a damn steak.

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So please help me, and possibly some others who potentially stumble upon this thread while scratching their heads at what is transpiring, understand the end-goal here with this specific conversation.

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I can't speak for anyone but myself. For me, it's just defending against false blind accusations. When someone says you can only have a problem with this shirt if you're transphobic. That's a blanket statement with the only purpose of shutting up the opposition.
But at this point, you're right. My initial responses were aimed at making people understand that those type of blanket statements are not ok on either side but once I saw they didn't care, I just started having fun and trolling a tad.

I just really despise the culture of labeling people based off of one decision. The human mind is far more complex than that.

Another answer (Unrelated to the shirt), is that I cancelled my sub and my time to post on forums is nearing its end. The more I can add my discontent with wuk lamat/Sena, the better. The internet has such a low attention span so keeping the discussion going strong is in the best interest for those who don't want her to return.

But don't worry, I'll stop responding about the shirt drama.

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Many thanks for the responses. Once again: I ain't here to start fights, given that seems to be all that has been occurring the past several pages. But this conversation about the T-Shirt/tweet seems to have spiraled into a pile of nothing where there are more insults and mockery back and forth then actual conversation now.

I will say some things though.

1.) Blanket statements implying something are not good. I've criticized this before as well when I have feedback about Sena's voice acting for Wuk Lamat and Wuk Lamat the character. Me and others should be able to give genuine criticism about Sena's voice performance and about Wuk Lamat herself without being given the labels of being Transphobic / Misogynistic / Bigot simply because something was said that you don't agree with. In the same vein: People should be allowed to give their own genuine reasons why they liked Sena's performance and Wuk Lamat without being told bigoted or racist things or just clowned on in general. Yes, there are absolutely people who hate Sena's performance / Wuk Lamat because they are one of those things I listed about, and it's stupid to pretend that isn't a possibility. Also yes, there are absolutely people who are only defending the performance/the character because the VA is Trans / Wuk is a female character and they care only about "owning the bigots" and not actually offering anything to the conversation. But it's just stupid overall to blanket label people with certain terms simply because they don't agree with your stance on something.

2.) Some of Sena's tweets are absolutely not good. The tweet about a certain "BLACK Gospel" song is just one such example that comes to mind. There are definitely some things Sena has said in the past that are very gaslighty and people are right to have some concerns about them, especially if it's going to happen for the next two years.

3.) The shirt itself. Even though I just said I wasn't here to start a fight, I may as well throw my own opinion into the ring since this IS the current conversation. I think the shirt is perfectly fine, by itself. I will also say it IS a weird shirt, and Sena didn't really need to display it alongside a tweet going "Dress for the job you want" since it, as expected, could be interpreted as Sena being perfectly fine with Transphobic people getting put 6 feet under. It's completely personal opinion how you feel about it and you're allowed to feel said way.

I'm fine with conversation and criticism, but I feel like the "conversation and criticism" with this shirt specifically has kind of disappeared and lost most of it's value given many responses are now just mocking one another and going "No u" constantly.

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Many thanks for the responses. Once again: I ain't here to start fights, given that seems to be all that has been occurring the past several pages. But this conversation about the T-Shirt/tweet seems to have spiraled into a pile of nothing where there are more insults and mockery back and forth then actual conversation now.

I will say some things though.

1.) Blanket statements implying something are not good. I've criticized this before as well when I have feedback about Sena's voice acting for Wuk Lamat and Wuk Lamat the character. Me and others should be able to give genuine criticism about Sena's voice performance and about Wuk Lamat herself without being given the labels of being Transphobic / Misogynistic / Bigot simply because something was said that you don't agree with. In the same vein: People should be allowed to give their own genuine reasons why they liked Sena's performance and Wuk Lamat without being told bigoted or racist things or just clowned on in general. Yes, there are absolutely people who hate Sena's performance / Wuk Lamat because they are one of those things I listed about, and it's stupid to pretend that isn't a possibility. Also yes, there are absolutely people who are only defending the performance/the character because the VA is Trans / Wuk is a female character and they care only about "owning the bigots" and not actually offering anything to the conversation. But it's just stupid overall to blanket label people with certain terms simply because they don't agree with your stance on something.

2.) Some of Sena's tweets are absolutely not good. The tweet about a certain "BLACK Gospel" song is just one such example that comes to mind. There are definitely some things Sena has said in the past that are very gaslighty and people are right to have some concerns about them, especially if it's going to happen for the next two years.

3.) The shirt itself. Even though I just said I wasn't here to start a fight, I may as well throw my own opinion into the ring since this IS the current conversation. I think the shirt is perfectly fine, by itself. I will also say it IS a weird shirt, and Sena didn't really need to display it alongside a tweet going "Dress for the job you want" since it, as expected, could be interpreted as Sena being perfectly fine with Transphobic people getting put 6 feet under. It's completely personal opinion how you feel about it and you're allowed to feel said way.

I'm fine with conversation and criticism, but I feel like the "conversation and criticism" with this shirt specifically has kind of disappeared and lost most of it's value given many responses are now just mocking one another and going "No u" constantly.

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No you. Also agree with what you said.

A thread asking people not to violently attack or send death threats to Sena Bryer should not be this controversial. The community needs a hard look at itself.

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Originally Posted by Folsom

Pfft. Get away from here with that histrionic nonsense. 99.9% of players do not visit the forums, and the vast majority of people complaining about Wuk Lamat and her voice actor couldn't care less about her being trans. If you think a couple people commenting on a video game forum thread being butts means the whole place is a "haven for transphobia," you are living in a fantasy horror show of your own making.

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The community should stand in solidarity with Sena Bryer and petition Square Enix to make a public statement denouncing transphobia and standing with Sena then. Just saying "don't attack certain employees" isn't enough. It's important to call out transphobia by its name: transphobia.

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Originally Posted by Losado

The community should stand in solidarity with Sena Bryer and petition Square Enix to make a public statement denouncing transphobia and standing with Sena then. Just saying "don't attack certain employees" isn't enough. It's important to call out transphobia by its name: transphobia.

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I'd join in on this movement but only if we all get a sacrifice transphobes to Satan shirt.

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Originally Posted by Losado

The community should stand in solidarity with Sena Bryer and petition Square Enix to make a public statement denouncing transphobia and standing with Sena then. Just saying "don't attack certain employees" isn't enough. It's important to call out transphobia by its name: transphobia.

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I already said to others, that wearing your ass as a hat is not a good idea. Guess you didn't got the memo.