Please implement something to teach players how to play

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Originally Posted by Rinhi

it is needed because most of the time a normal trial/raid can't be passed is because of selfish and entitled players like you holding everyone up and expecting to get carried through the content said content like you were in your whole playtime before

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and I thank you for the carry. and if it fails. Well guess we make a new group and try again. Not a big deal. Better luck next time. Win some lose some. Failing is ok in games.

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Originally Posted by Jadedsins

Hmmmmm...I don't know if it is worth debating this. As it would suggest that the DF content can't be done without all your skills. If that is the case, dang I'm better than I thought.

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"can't" and "can" aren't the point. If the game wasn't intending you to make use of more than 2-3 skills and/or abilities we wouldn't even have more than those 2-3.

You can't do these "higher" end things like 8 and 24 man content without first clearing through all the required 4 man content.

You and your potentially imaginary husband just don't want to debate because you know you can't prove me otherwise.

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Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman

"can't" and "can" aren't the point. If the game wasn't intending you to make use of more than 2-3 skills and/or abilities we wouldn't even have more than those 2-3.

You can't do these "higher" end things like 8 and 24 man content without first clearing through all the required 4 man content.

You and your potentially imaginary husband just don't want to debate because you know you can't prove me otherwise.

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Not really, nothing to debate you with. My husband already answer you, and you ignored his logic. You can just say you don't agree and move on...but you want to act like you have some upper hand is just silly. Also you need to calm down...imaginary husband? Listen, the only time I ever wish that was true is when he plays Escape From Tarkov. Just because we don't agree does not mean you got to call my husband imaginary. What is wrong with you?

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Originally Posted by Jadedsins

and I thank you for the carry. and if it fails. Well guess we make a new group and try again. Not a big deal. Better luck next time. Win some lose some. Failing is ok in games.

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Funny when you personally don't even bother trying.

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

Funny when you personally don't even bother trying.

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I mean I try in my own way. :) and have fun doing it. And can still have fun even if we fail. Not a big deal. Since people want to teach me. Maybe I should teach people to just enjoy the game. You don't need progression to have fun.

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Originally Posted by Jadedsins

Just because we don't agree does not mean you got to call my husband imaginary. What is wrong with you?

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Any reason you seem to pop up when he seems to have hit his daily post limit?

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Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo

- Tanks who just sit there and pull 1 group at a time.

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This a player community thing not a game mechanic. And opens a whole debate on efficiency, speed runs etc. The game was not designed around mass pulls. Their current balance and gear system do allow for this to happen though with good use of abilities and certain gear threshold. However, most players do take advantage of this being possible to speed up dungeons runs. Whether a tank does big or or small pulls doesn’t other me. But honestly I’d rather have a mix by design. Some large packs some small packs that hit like a freight train and require more planning.

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Originally Posted by ZedxKayn

Any reason you seem to pop up when he seems to have hit his daily post limit?

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Because when he reaches his post limit. He goes to bed, he post on here right before bed time. I hop on the computer when he goes to bed and reaches his limit. I'm mostly doing other things and don't get a chance to relax until he sleeps.


I mean him and I posted same time before. But while he rests Im relaxing before I go to bed. And that time is now. :)

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Originally Posted by Wavaryen

Like I said before, do you all really care that people get better. Or are you wanting players to get "better" to your standards because you want DF groups to do the content faster?

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Actually yes, if players get better we get better tuned content and more of it.

Fun fact, Yoshi P has actually said he would like to introduce DPS meters in the game without the ban hammer if the playerbase was actually better.

https://ricedigital.co.uk/ffxiv-fanf...producer-live/

Q: Can we have an official in game parser for only ourselves? Especially for PS4 players.
A: No. I 100% understand that you want to see your DPS, but then people will demand to know your DPS and there will be fights. And it would then mean someone would take the tool, and make it so you can see everyone’s. And we understand fully that people want this tool to get better themselves, but we are certain that it will lead to fighting. But we are always considering it for the future. So, during 3.X we saw the skill gap between good and bad players increase, which is why we are focusing on re-developing our battle system to close the gap. Once that happens, we will consider it. But now, it would just hurt the community. I’m not sure if I can say this, but we are working on a system that doesn’t display a number but may be a system that you can try and then try again, to make yourself better. Hmmm. It’s probably never been done on an MMO before.

Essentially, and from the word of Yoshi P himself, bad players are holding back good players in this game.

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Originally Posted by Rinhi

like, contrary to what it may seem I don't have a problem with players like this - and would even do content with them because I'd know what I'd getting into (forgive me for using these cold words, I really don't mean it in a bad way!)
hell, I don't mind waiting 10+ minutes if someone from DF has to go AFK as long as they communicate it

but when a player actively and knowingly isn't using their abilities, is smug and toxic about it and tries to take a moral high ground over the perceived "elitism" of others when people call them what they are, it weirds me out and says a lot about themselves when they continuously do it
also, calling others self-centered when they want to help people improve, like what the heck lmao

also, I find it odd how the husband stops posting and the wife starts posting with the exact same writing and post style :v)

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Oh, I afk'd and was playing Ori... got caught up in a boss fight. I've not hit post limits or whatever... but I also don't use her account ...come to think of it I don't think her account has a single forum post. Though I assume you're talking about the other guy w/ his wife posting?