AOE Toggle Needs to GO

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Originally Posted by viion

Dont remove offensive AOE nukes for the sake of people not being able to control aoe, that would piss me off and just reduce the game even more.

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This can not be reiterated enough.

I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, it allows the dev team to introduce 'traditional' final fantasy spells (e.g. Fira, Firaga, etc.) and make the Disciples of Magic a bit more unique from one another (i.e. Thaumaturge may not be able to use AoE Conjurer spells if they change the system in place.) On the other hand, it creates the issue where you're equipping two or more of the same spells, thus eating up space on the action bar that could be used for other skills. To be honest, I don't think it's hard at all to toggle the AoE of spells on and off. If tapping 'z' on the keyboard or the designated button on the controller before you cast something is too hard, there are macros that can alleviate that. It's not that hard to control AoE...

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Originally Posted by Embers

When at Broken Water with the 100 other people doing the same leve, and lagging out because our mobs all pop in the same place ( or because someone is just running round spawning all their mobs before they go back and kill them) removing the additional action of Z on Z off is a great move in my book!
Thank you Dev team!

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How in that case does toggling AoE on or off help? The last I checked, you can't attack another person's leve spawned enemies.

SE should take me to dinner and wear a condom before they totally F*CK me. Seriously I won't be down for the removal unless they tell me that its gonna balance out with AP. I'm not sit there deciding what to put in my action bar. IN XI this wasn't a problem, macros were useful for battle, and..omg this is amazing....I could access any spell I didn't macro from my menu. In this game, seriously eff this.

More spells probably less action slots/points, that's what this sounds like to me.
I would like classic FF spells, but I don't want to be punished for those who hopped on this bandwagon (unlike OP) just because they are too lazy to press Z or they are elitist and think this would improve strategy. At this moment in time choosing when to toggle z on/off is part of my strategy and I feel it is a part of my job as a mage to predict when is a safe time to use them. If you don't play a mage class, I would think you're opinion is moot.

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Originally Posted by Shika

Hmmm interesting idea... does make me concerned slightly though, for example if they make Sleep single target only and you need to crowd control several mobs- hopefully cool-downs in this case would be adjusted for spells like this.

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I think this is great news, honestly. Everything having the option to be single target / AoE is a little crazy. Buffs really should just be AoE, while AoE CC like sleep is a little overpowered (really should be single target only).

Spells needed a reevaluation like this to make party play more challenging and encourage us to make better choices instead of the LOL-AoE fest it is now. *thumbs up*

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Originally Posted by Felis

You still need to choose your spell target after activating the spell

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Hopefully that'll be reevaluated too. FFS, if I have the person targeted, that's who I want to cast the spell on. Redundant redundancies are redundant.

Target-of-target {Can I have it?}

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Originally Posted by normalforce

How in that case does toggling AoE on or off help? The last I checked, you can't attack another person's leve spawned enemies.

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The lag caused by everyone around causes the UI to go extremly slowly,
Press cure
wait for green button
Press Z
wait for spell to cast

Reducing the steps to cast the spell will help in the situation I exampled,
nothing to do with hitting someone elses mobs

i smell an official poll coming when it comes time to implement this....

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Originally Posted by Embers

The lag caused by everyone around causes the UI to go extremly slowly,
Press cure
wait for green button
Press Z
wait for spell to cast

Reducing the steps to cast the spell will help in the situation I exampled,
nothing to do with hitting someone elses mobs

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It would be still:
Press cure
wait for sub target circle
Press Return
wait for spell to cast

Terrible idea that sounds like it is born from someone who cant play the game with any sort of focus. If they even want to consider this they MUST assign your party members to F2-F8, they must increase the size of the action bar to fit multiple versions of spells and increase how many action points you have overall. They have to tony down every mobs aoe ability and reevaluate the fighting groups of mobs all the time. I cant believe that this even got the attention of the devs it is one of the most unimportant issues with the game.

PLEASE SHUT DOWN THESE FORUMS IT'S JUST BITCHING AND CRAPPY IDEAS CAN GET TO MUCH ATTENTION.
JUST SURPRISE US AND DESTROY THIS MISERABLE PLACE WE CALL A FORUM.

P.S.- Can't wait for 1.18 ^^

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Originally Posted by Embers

The lag caused by everyone around causes the UI to go extremly slowly,
Press cure
wait for green button
Press Z
wait for spell to cast

Reducing the steps to cast the spell will help in the situation I exampled,
nothing to do with hitting someone elses mobs

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*sigh* Then you could have just used a macro. I guess its a moot point as they're removing the AoE toggle.