Gold Sellers

Perhaps it is time for some community members to be appointed as deputy GMs with the ability to tag players for GM attention?

they dont read the reports and they dont do anything to the rmt spammers.
all you can do is ignore them and try to pretend youre in a game where the company actually gives a damn

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Perhaps it is time for some community members to be appointed as deputy GMs with the ability to tag players for GM attention?

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I like this idea! Or if they don't want to do that maybe they would like to appoint their own gm's to stand around as normal characters, and get spammed all day lol!

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Originally Posted by KrazyKupo

I like this idea! Or if they don't want to do that maybe they would like to appoint their own gm's to stand around as normal characters, and get spammed all day lol!

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Oh, I don't know if they could do that, their GMs might get fed up with nothing happening to the gil spammers and complain...

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Originally Posted by einwol

Level restriction on shouts is a great idea!!! how about a timer on how often you can shout?

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Like in other games like WoW and i think Rift, you have to be a certain level like level 10 to even utilize the shout feature. Or like in FFXI with the chat filters i think there was one for possible spam to be blocked, cant remember havent played in about 8 months.

ive exceeded my blacklist limit, so now i just /busy when i play and that blocks every tell i get. so i can somewhat enjoy the game without getting spammed from RMTer's

All of these are great suggestions which should have been implemented in the game before its release. The fact that they still haven't put a button in to blacklist spammers with one click means that it is nowhere near the top of their list of priorities and we will all have to deal with the RMT forevermore. My blacklist has been full for almost a month now so every time I need to add a new one I have the joy of having to delete an old one too. This is entirely unprofessional and unacceptable and they obviously do not care anywhere near enough about it. It's a shame!

There is a macro for that. Just saying.

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Originally Posted by AriDunao

There is a macro for that. Just saying.

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That's only for those that send you tells though.
You'll still have to manually blacklist the shout and yell spammers.

That said though, lately the spam, at least on Sargatanas, has decreased exponentially.
The towns have been quite clean of shouts and the tell spammers I have to blacklist have reduced from 1~3 per night to 1~4 per week.

Aside from that, the tells they send get more cryptic every time as well. It's almost fun now to try and solve the puzzle of what they're actually trying to say to you now.

Last night I emptied my complete blacklist again and... nothing!

Ok Goldsellers are dealt with somewhat.

Now its time to deal with Bots. Do something, put GMs in the actual game and in every zone, it's not hard.

These bots are shitting up your game with the economy shitted up already from scumbags who actually did purchase gold and now put things at retarded prices.

PLUS Ive seen the same damn bot farm god damn diremite webs for the passed 4 weeks. SE for real, i've reported this scumbag 12 times already and he's still around.

implement pvp already so that we can kill the bastards or something. and take off your feature when you are set to busy we can't trade with you, if you need a reason why, it FUCKS over their bot program.

LETS HOPE YOU LISTEN SE, we're all just a little tired of fighting your battles and showing you the ugly sides of your game which im sure you are aware. Action speaks louder than words do.

Bot are the new problem now. I witnessed a person using a mining program and you can tell he was a bot because he would always run into wall's looking for nods to mine then run back to the middle and repeat. This took place in the NA server Fearir or what ever funny name you spell it and I reported him. This miner was level 47 mining in la nosca. The afk programs are what's killing the game economy.

Well I am now 200/200 on my blocklist. All of them reported. I can no longer block spammers yet the GMs are still telling me to.

Now they ignore my reports. Have not had a response in 8 hours.

I just reported GMs for harassment. Let's see how this turns out.

It may be a catch-22 for SE. If they don't delete the characters, people think SE did nothing because the name is still in the list (instead of "(deleted)"). If SE does delete the characters, RMT can create a new spam character with the same name and people think that SE did nothing because they're still shouting.

Even when the shout spam was worst, I deleted names on my blist to make room and I didn't immediately get hit with hundreds of shouters and /tell spam. It was just like every other day. The blist works best when you can add a name immediately, so I would recommend deleting some of those older names to make room.

More than level restriction on shouts, I'd favor the idea to block shouts at all, when the user is still on free trial.
As long as trial is intended on "feeling" the game in order to purchase the subscription, shout interaction is not a game breaker at that stage of things.

Why is the concept of banning at the account level so hard to understand?

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Originally Posted by ArkhamNative

It may be a catch-22 for SE. If they don't delete the characters, people think SE did nothing because the name is still in the list (instead of "(deleted)"). If SE does delete the characters, RMT can create a new spam character with the same name and people think that SE did nothing because they're still shouting.

Even when the shout spam was worst, I deleted names on my blist to make room and I didn't immediately get hit with hundreds of shouters and /tell spam. It was just like every other day. The blist works best when you can add a name immediately, so I would recommend deleting some of those older names to make room.

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if they delete them we know they are doing something and they are just using luisbdgfshd as names now so it wont matter cause there are infinite number of random keys to hit and i was on a server that was usually locked so it wasnt bad but i always knew when they opened character creation because i got 50 different names spamming me every time

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...mpany/?q=asdas

These free companies are a massive RMT operations.
If SE had the decency to even check those accounts out, they would see it.
I've been reporting those and many bots on my server for months and I still see them running around today.

I would love to join the STF team. Paid to do nothing all day.

I love how the gathering and crafting jobs were redone and they are enjoyable to lvl now (I took fishing to 50 in 1.0 so didn't have to relvl it but still enjoy how it was redone a lot) However tho when lvling bot/min the joy is taken away when I see nodes being hacked by underground bots.. and these same bots have reports on them from well over 50 people and nothing is done cuz they are still there the next 2 weeks. Same area doing the same thing. Now in the shroud I've noticed they have upped their game where they don't swing every time to gather. It's 1 swing and it nets them a full harvest of w/e they are hitting. Most likely it's crystals because that is the only valuable thing in the market atm.
What I would LOVE to see SE do and I'm sure this might have been mentioned before is please for the love of god have a shift of GM's that patrol certain area's where reports are made. So they can observe and see for themselves the case and instantly ban those ppl right then and there. Not wait for a report then when a month goes by look into data. When a report is made by at least 5-10 people have it auto-flag or send a message to whoever in the STFU to sign in and go to that location and observe the nodes. Or even better is have a GM stationed in every city that you can report too for things like this and they can teleport to the area and do it. I'm not saying hire someone and make them sit 24/7 but if you have like 10 people rotating shifts on 1 GM character then it's a good way to hammer down on the activity. I know Yoshi is pretty upset with how the RMTs are still trying to ruin this game tho there really isn't much for them to do and a lot of the stuff is easily soloable and obtained by a player themselves. But the shout spam and the bot spam is enough to ruin the joy of game play for anyone trying to have fun.
That or since these bots are using a 3rd party script that somehow allows them to do this. Why can't SE make a script that cannot be bypassed or unwritten that nodes cannot be harvested from under the map terrain. Anyone who is under there trying to harvest a node gets a 'out of reach' message. I'm sure it can be done because near copperbell mines I was trying to hit the bots inside the mountain wall with mob AoE but it never went thru the wall. Same with trying to target the RMT could see them but couldn't target them. So the same should be implied with the node they shouldn't be able to target/reach it. That or make a script that when you hit the node it registers your players location and if you are located under the map terrain you are instantly error'd from server and cannot log back in for 15 hours or something. I dunno I'm not a programmer or a script writer. But it would help a lot to have one or the other.. Having a group of GMs online in game 24/7 (rotated by ppl irl on workshifts) going to area's where bots are reported and taking action would be the best thing to do.

I guess RMT is a problem, that has no solution. I dislike that about those people. There must be a way. People need to have a account type, so we can blacklist all of them at once, or they get banned. This will allow people who don't blacklist gil sellers and the works , to purchase from them. Everybody else will have to make their own way, with the gamers. Offer them an account type, so we can play without them. Everybody willing to play with them, is frowned upon, but not much else we can expect.

well then the chat system is broke, let me know when it is fixed. goldceo.com 0 square enix= loses a customer

How do i block people on ps3?

The gold spammers that make the beeping noise are also making me not want to Sub anymore. I have 25 blacklisted in 3 days. Also the GMs in the game via email or via in game reports. Have not done nothing for my potion of phantasia restoration. Even through support when I email I get 6 of the same emails saying in 2 days jt will be fixed and its over 6! Thats not how Blizzard treats its subs members. In a half a hour on Wow or Less u will be fixed right away. I love this game but If they cant do the smallest thing for a customer then its time to leave. Im a long time Subber and if they wont help me or others then they only care about money.

I totally agree the the gold spammers is a major problem, it is non stop and constant pm's. It be nice if you could do one of the following

1.) When you blacklist, it blacklist people on that entire account.
2.) Right click the persons name to report not have to go threw 2 pages to report someone.
3.) be able to have anonymous tab check it so no one can see you online or view you online.


To be honest I have played allot of mmo's and have seen this problem but most games take extreme action against it.
I just pisses me off to block one and 3 more message me it's like they know I blocked them.

Make a Jail like in FFXI

and everything will be fine

i absolutely hate the gold spammer pm's . Within minutes of logging in, I receive them. always from dumb names like zxcvxcv zcvzxvzc. It's gotten so bad that I don't have an alert sound telling me that I received a pm . I don't even have any of my logs displaying pm's anymore.

A right click the persons name to blacklist or report would be nice but nope. Right clicking someones name in chat log allows you to add them as a friend or replay back. great.

It would be nice if right clicking a persons name has more options such as examine and black list.

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Originally Posted by c0c0

i absolutely hate the gold spammer pm's . Within minutes of logging in, I receive them. always from dumb names like zxcvxcv zcvzxvzc. It's gotten so bad that I don't have an alert sound telling me that I received a pm . I don't even have any of my logs displaying pm's anymore.

A right click the persons name to blacklist or report would be nice but nope. Right clicking someones name in chat log allows you to add them as a friend or replay back. great.

It would be nice if right clicking a persons name has more options such as examine and black list.

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Give it a few hours ... You'll be able to blacklist them by clicking on their name with patch 2.1. Which you can download now!

Why not have what FFXI has, instead of turning off the /tell's have a spam filter that will filter out the RMT's /tell's and you can still have your /tell's show up in your chat windows. You wouldn't even see the RMT spam, and maybe have the same thing for the /shout and /Yell as well.

to everyone complaining about the lack of a right-click blacklist option..

there is a very easy macro solution

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/blist add "<r>"

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of course, this gets tiresome too...
i would personally like to see blacklist applied to all characters on an account.

I have this issue to both on NA and JP Servers its a daily thing non stop. Its a bot just sending all these players gold spam and it needs to stop problem I think is all these bots do is delete and make new toons so it makes it hard to track for squareenix maybe...

What they need to have is a system that will flag an account that gets so many reports a day and auto bans them. The only way it will stop is if lazy people stop buying gil its as simple as that. Yes I know u want that bad ass house or u have no time for the game but honestly thats not my problem an MMO is a time consuming game deal with it or move on. Stop giving all ur money to these damn Chinese who just hack account and sell gil for a profit

Ok, yes GS suck and yes, all the SPAM is a bit ridiculous. I see a lot of comments about other MMO's such as WoW and how it was handled by Blizzard. RMT still exists on all of those games too. Remember WoW has been out for almost a decade now so when it was first released the shear number of Gil Sellers did not exist. The right-click to black list is going to be a great feature but what most people in this thread are suggesting is just not feasible. In all honesty, the problem isn't so much the people selling the Gil or the PL services, its all the people that use those services that have caused us the problem we face today. If there wasn't a substantial profit from buying in game currency these companies wouldn't exist. Be mad at all the players that are purchasing this money, but we live in a time of instant gratification so people are inevitably lazy.

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Originally Posted by beckyslater

I cancelled my subscription tonight because of the gold seller spam. Completely ridiculous. Simple solution...right-click report spam or ignore. Bad enough they get away with flooding chat so nobody can read , but then I have to remember their silly scramble of letters they call a name and use my game time to type it in. How was this not taken care of already?! And when I hit escape while I am typing I expect it to CLEAR what I was typing and then decided not to say when I hit escape. But nope, gotta go delete it or backspace it. Beautiful game with a broken chat log.

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It makes sense. SE won't do it. But I'm totally with you on this. A way to simply right click them in chat and place on the blacklist would be amazingly convenient.

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Originally Posted by odie

It makes sense. SE won't do it. But I'm totally with you on this. A way to simply right click them in chat and place on the blacklist would be amazingly convenient.

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You do realize this was added with 2.1 right?

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...7af43f3c43828a

The Add to Blacklist option has been added to the character name subcommands available from the chat log.

seriously SE, fuck the gold sellers for now and fix more important issues like the fact that 2.1 constantly crashes ps3's and you haven't even considered fixing it yet.

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Originally Posted by Kamina33

You can report them through the in-game support option (all the way to the right after hitting start during gameplay) under "cheating".

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This is good and all but nothing seems to happen when you do, wondering if SE even cares sometimes. I reported twice now in the past week the same character in the same spot, obvious bot farming but yet nothing has happened yet.

If on Ultros server look in North Shroud outside Alder Springs where the Banemite's are. Junt Kut is the characters name, spins around in circles in one spot, until a monster comes close enough for him to shoot on his archer. After the monster dies he spins around in a circle again, rinse repeat. Been at this all week. Sure not yelling RMT but obviously going against ToS... unless SE thinks botting is allowed without telling anyone.... just saying would be nice if they actually did things in a more timely manner. If they don't have enough staff then they should get some volunteer GM's (monitored so they don't abuse their powers) to jail these accounts until a normal GM can pursue the matter further.

TLDR - SE need to speed things up and ban quicker :)

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Originally Posted by nijn78

You should take out the site xD now you're kinda advertising for them.

I wish Square would do whatever it is Enmasse does (tera)
There are no goldsellers in their game, and I haven't seen any bots either. It was so refreshing after playing Aion (which is also filled with bots and goldspammers).
Now... entering a full bot and goldspamming game again this discourages me.

So yeah... Square, I have no idea how Enmasse prevents the goldspammers and bots from Tera but please look into it and inplant this system or whatever in FF.

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I fully agree with you, I play both Tera and The Secret world, they are the only mmos I have ever played that have no rmt spam or botting. I think Square/Enix needs to find out how they do prevent gold spamming though I know that Enmasse does not allow anyone in any chat, or messages, to use email or web addresses. There are ways around that, so it may be some other function on the back end. Tera is a very popular game so you know that it would be an mmo that gold sellers would very much like to advertise there. TSW has a strong following but probably not popular enough to be worth any gold seller presence.
Aion has had good and bad periods with the gold spam, but so far Final Fantasy XIV has been the worst of any mmo so far. I constantly blacklist them, I gave up on reporting, there are times it gets so bad I wouldn't be able to play the game if I spent all my time reporting.

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Originally Posted by CountBaal

You can Black list a gold seller real quick by typing /blist add <R> this will add the last person that sent a message. Hope this helps. :)

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You can also add that to a macro. Makes it very quick and simple to blacklist of them. Just typing that in is hard at times if your busy in a dungeon or in fates. If you wait too long to blist them, you end up with multiple spams from the same gold seller. The macro makes it so I can blist a gold seller anywhere anytime.

Okay I have ran out of blacklist spots. 200\200 and I can't blacklist theses ppl anymore. SE at least make more room to blacklist people.

Also my ignore list is filling up fast with a 200 limit. I ignore all spammers immediately I believe I am up to 100 ignores. Please fix this madness asap or i will have to tell my friends this game is the same as WoW in that regards. It is impossible to hold a conversation when 3 pages of gold selling tells shows up.

I´ve had ppl blacklisted for weeks as bots and goldsellers. At first I blacklisted and reported as a good player. But seeing as se don´t care about it I´ve now stopped.
And yes. It is a real threat to normal, honest paying customers.. I´m just playing this game atm, cause I enjoy it and have nothing else I want to play. But as soon as my fav game is up, I´ll leave and probably never come back. A LOT cause of RMTs not being dealt with. It hurts the economy, and the general gameplay for us honest weirdo´s playing the game. As a crafter it really messes up the way of making gil. The get the prices down with their stupid botting. And I´ve even seen ppl from FC´s botting and reported. They are still ingame. If they wont care about me, guess what? I´m not paying for their game.

It doesn't seem like SE is making an honest effort here to solve the problem, they just cover it up with their "oh we banned xxx accounts this month for RMT/botting" instead of executing action against these RMT sites, as well as in-game preventative measures to prevent spamming/botting.

I have already cleared my blacklist once, about 2 or 3 weeks ago, and it's already coming up on 50 names. Prior to that purge, the only outside player contact I would have (aside from party members or FC members) is the brief windows when I would un-busy to do a meld or take a party invite. No tells, no /shout, no /yell, no /say, absolutely NO outside contact.

It settled down for a little while, but it seems like the RMT/botting problem... make that INFESTATION... is coming back again, even though now we see that it's primarily the same 3 maybe 4 sources (eusgame, pvpbank, game4top, and the chinese-named or silly-named mining bots).

Out of my 69 blacklisted RMT's only 8 have been deleted so far so I think the response time is very slow. So that is a rate of just over one a month for an average of 13 reports a month, less than 10% ban rate. So really this is not a high priority issue for them. I would be interested in knowing if the rate is any better on other servers.