SE is always SE... Rage inside... :/

Too bad SE invite people that won't play the game and only applied to alpha because it's free and don't look at the legacy members.

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Originally Posted by whoopeeragon

Then why did you bring it up in the first place?



That's because it is precisely a contract between you and SE to not let anyone know about the alpha testing going on. Be it private or not, YOU ARE BREACHING NDA. People are merely reinforcing it; I don't see what's wrong with pointing out facts and rightful words.
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Moogle lawyers gonna mess them up son!

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Originally Posted by Thebard

FF fans are the biggest bunch of whingers.


Now go and whinge about something else.

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As a Megaman fan I am offended by this ill-informed statement . How dare you sir!

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Originally Posted by Kallera

As a Megaman fan I am offended by this ill-informed statement . How dare you sir!

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Hahahaha, no one beats the Megaman fanbase in the bitching department. Although to be fair most of it is motivated.

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

You dumbfucks, alpha iis under NDA, you are not suppose to advertise anything, you saying you will advertise is exactly why you never gets in.

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Read the NDA.
"Oh my god, this is going to be so great! I am so stoked. You should really look forward to this!" is exactly the kind of marketing that people can and would do. If they were in.

What's a Whinge? Is that? Like even a word? Am I gonna have to urban dictionary it?


Did you just use British English?


Is that allowed? I'mma report your post as offensive just incase it isnt..

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

FB old guild group:


xxxxx:
Sono ufficialmente Alpha Tester, sto scaricando il client LOL. - I'm officially an alpha tester, i'm downloading the client
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Me: Avevi account inattivo o attivo? Io che sembro il PR italiano della SE niente :/ - You had an active account?
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xxxxx: Inattivo LOL - Inative LOL.
pochi secondi fa · Mi piace

xxxxxx: Lo ha avuto anche un mio amico che ha giocato 1 h al vecchio FFXIV - A freind of mine who playd 1H the old ffxiv got it too.
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............ No more words are needed.

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Quoting myself for visibility.

And in meanwhile MY UNCLE (that played the free months), called me from saying: Oh i got the alpha invitation, now what i have to do? I have to click on the alpha forum link? How can i download the client..? Etc,

Me: Uncle, did you pay ANY month for the game?
Uncle: Are you crazy? Paying for that game? Of course not...


So even MY UNCLE is trolling me? (Along with fb friends, other forums ppl, old TS friends etc.)

Stop being SE defender force, please :mad:

Yikes peoples...

Calm yo'

It's ok... Whether you played one month or two years of playing... it's just Alpha...

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

Quoting myself for visibility.

And in meanwhile MY UNCLE (that played the free months), called me from saying: Oh i got the alpha invitation, now what i have to do? I have to click on the alpha forum link? How can i download the client..? Etc,

Me: Uncle, did you pay ANY month for the game?
Uncle: Are you crazy? Paying for that game? Of course not...


So even MY UNCLE is trolling me? (Along with fb friends, other forums ppl, old TS friends etc.)

Stop being SE defender force.

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SE didn't force your uncle or your friends to apply for alpha.

SE doesn't know your uncle and friends did it for the lols.

SE aren't mind-readers.

The inactive part may be a bug/glitch as I've heard of one friend who gets rejected from the application, and we have someone a few pages back who also had the same experience. I'm not defending anything of SE's - NDA may be black and white, but opinions are at least fifty shades of grey.

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Originally Posted by Colino

No, it does say in the NDA you should not inform anyone. It's even been quoted a couple of posts ago.

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Well if it does I stand correctly, I did not see it and I can't be bothered to go through pages of cry to find it personally. xD

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

Quoting myself for visibility.

And in meanwhile MY UNCLE (that played the free months), called me from saying: Oh i got the alpha invitation, now what i have to do? I have to click on the alpha forum link? How can i download the client..? Etc,

Me: Uncle, did you pay ANY month for the game?
Uncle: Are you crazy? Paying for that game? Of course not...


So even MY UNCLE is trolling me? (Along with fb friends, other forums ppl, old TS friends etc.)

Stop being SE defender force.

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That's half the fun of being an uncle!

And you're like acting like a 5year old about it. This isn't some fan contest thing, its the company business of application testing. Your uncle is agreeing to play an early/buggy version of a game. If he's expecting HIGH ADVENTURE he's in for a letdown.

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Originally Posted by Niqote

it's just Alpha...

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About that....

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

"Why was the Beta delayed?" "Because I told them to *wry smile*". Basically, he wants to polish it more because of the feedback he received. He's been telling the dev team that saying "it's just alpha" is not allowed and that thinking like that was what has lead 1.0 to be all over the place.

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Sorry, I couldn't resist! -cower-

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Originally Posted by Kallera

That's half the fun of being an uncle!

And you're like acting like a 5year old about it. This isn't some fan contest thing, its the company business of application testing. Your uncle is agreeing to play an early/buggy version of a game.

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Again, i'm not whinning cuz i didn't receive the invitation. But because people with inactive account, who never paid for this game got it. While experienced people that always supported the game, who can give feedback didn't get in. Why ?

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

Again, i'm not whinning cuz i didn't receive the invitation. But because people with inactive, who never paid for this game account got it. While experienced people that always supported the game, who can give feedback didn't get in. Why ?

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What's done is done, you complaining about it over and over will not fix that at all. Only thing to do is sit back and wait for the next phase.

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

Again, i'm not whinning cuz i didn't receive the invitation. But because people with inactive account, who never paid for this game got it. While experienced people that always supported the game, who can give feedback didn't get in. Why ?

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Just to make you suffer.

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Originally Posted by AntonyB

Well if it does I stand correctly, I did not see it and I can't be bothered to go through pages of cry to find it personally. xD

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Yeah I can understand why lol.

Get a grip!

Feedback from players who quit after the first month is more precious than feedback from players who stayed until the end.

I really don't understand the rage here.

Playing 1.0 for a long time does not make anyone a better (stress) tester for ARR. Nor does it make you somehow more entitled to do it.

No one has gotten an invite without applying to be a tester so they can't be completely unmotivated (or they wouldn't have filled an application).

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Feedback from players who quit after the first month is more precious than feedback from players who stayed until the end.

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Yea, because players who stayed to end know more about a game that's in alpha and not released than someone who quit after first month.

...Sarcasm is definitely not my strong point.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Feedback from players who quit after the first month is more precious than feedback from players who stayed until the end.

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I suppose that this is how SE believe :-|

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Feedback from players who quit after the first month is more precious than feedback from players who stayed until the end.

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Actually I was thinking about it, and I agree. But then again, I'm scared they'll get blind by the new stuff (and ordinary stuff for us) and won't actually work towards testing.

I guess it works both ways.

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

Again, i'm not whinning cuz i didn't receive the invitation. But because people with inactive account, who never paid for this game got it. While experienced people that always supported the game, who can give feedback didn't get in. Why ?

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Your sig is not exactly a convincing argument.

And what makes you think experienced people didn't get in?

Stop White Knighting SE. Just stop it.

Are you now seriously attempting to rationalize why dedicated players weren't chosen? You have all the right to be mad and demand to be taken in. Now, if you're gonna spew some nonsense about "false entitlement" I suggest you first raise your head above SE's boots.

Bad move, SE........ bad move.

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

Stop White Knighting SE. Just stop it.

Are you now seriously attempting to rationalize why dedicated players weren't chosen? You have all the right to be mad and demand to be taken in. Now, if you're gonna spew some nonsense about "false entitlement" I suggest you first raise your head above SE's boots.

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Dedicated players /were/ chosen, but you won't ever see them post on forums that they were because of NDA, so you're only hearing bad stuff @_@;

please. cry. harder. it's entertaining as hell to read all this boo-hooing.

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Originally Posted by Endigiont

What's a Whinge? Is that? Like even a word? Am I gonna have to urban dictionary it?


Did you just use British English?

Is that allowed? I'mma report your post as offensive just incase it isnt..

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Report yourself lol.

whinge (hwnj, wnj)
intr.v. whinged, whing·ing, whing·es Chiefly British
To complain or protest, especially in an annoying or persistent manner.
[Dialectal alteration of Middle English whinsen, from Old English hwinsian.]
whinger n.
whinging·ly adv.

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

Stop White Knighting SE. Just stop it.

Are you now seriously attempting to rationalize why dedicated players weren't chosen? You have all the right to be mad and demand to be taken in. Now, if you're gonna spew some nonsense about "false entitlement" I suggest you first raise your head above SE's boots.

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in your case, it's not false entitlement, it's just blatant entitlement :p SE will conduct their alpha test the way they think is best. The only thing they owe to the player base that supported them through 1.0 is to delivery a good 2.0, they don't owe you jack as far as choosing you to be an alpha tester.

This is a fking alpha test, there are FAR more players than spots open, not everyone is gonna get in period, now get over yourself.

Friends: Hey guys, Dragonheart is wigging out! Lets mess with him! HAY Dragonheart we got alpha invites without being active account holders!
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Dragonheart:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mQCc_PC6uV...1600/fuuuu.jpg

Uncle: HAY, Dragonheart is wigging out! Lemme mess with him! HAY, I got an alpha invite without being an active account holder!
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Originally Posted by Thebard

Report yourself lol.

whinge (hwnj, wnj)
intr.v. whinged, whing·ing, whing·es Chiefly British
To complain or protest, especially in an annoying or persistent manner.
[Dialectal alteration of Middle English whinsen, from Old English hwinsian.]
whinger n.
whinging·ly adv.

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(offtopic) I haven't heard the word 'whinge' since I left the uk (grew up there and left 5 years ago lol), so to hear (well...read) someone using brit slang makes me feel a little homesick in a good way lol. I have a hard time trying to get my American husband to understand brit slang - like whinge, Mard-arse etc lol. Thanks for the nostalgia kick! <3

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

Stop White Knighting SE. Just stop it.

Are you now seriously attempting to rationalize why dedicated players weren't chosen? You have all the right to be mad and demand to be taken in. Now, if you're gonna spew some nonsense about "false entitlement" I suggest you first raise your head above SE's boots.

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I don't think anyone's said that. We all applied for alpha registration where it was specified that selection will be based on the criteria and options laid out in the application form, not by how many level 50 disciplines or how many relics you have in 1.0. We are all on equal ground for this alpha testing, so long as we satisfy the requirements laid in in the alpha registration page.

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Disclosure of Proprietary Information

As stated in the “FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Tester Agreement,” testers are prohibited from publicizing any proprietary information related to the Alpha Test on external sites. In the event that we confirm that infringement has occurred, your rights to be a tester will be revoked and your FINAL FANTASY XIV account will be suspended.
We will announce if and when Alpha Test-related details can be publicized, so please take great care in their handling until they have been made public. For feedback and discussions between testers, please use the dedicated tester forum, which will open at a later date.

Application Requirements

- Must currently have an active FINAL FANTASY XIV account
- Must be at least 18 years of age
- Must be willing to participate actively and submit bug reports in at least one of the following languages: Japanese, English, French, German
- Must have a PC that meets the minimum system requirements of the game

Alpha Tester Selection

- Selection will be based on the answers submitted in the application. Those selected will be notified by email.
* Testers will not be selected on a first-come first-serve basis.
- Acceptance notifications will be sent to the email address registered as Email Address 1 on your Square Enix Account.
* If you have an active spam filter, please deactivate it or approve messages from the “square-enix.com” domain.
- Selections will be made in each test phase, and the number of testers will be gradually increased.
- Testers will be able to participate in testing for the duration of the Alpha Test.
- You do not need to submit multiple entries for each test phase.

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Nowhere do I see "Players who have achieved a substantial amount of progression in FINAL FANTASY XIV will be guaranteed a spot in alpha testing when global invites are distributed." Whether you dedicated to FFXIV or not has no impact on your standings for alpha testing in FFXIV: ARR.

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

Stop White Knighting SE. Just stop it.

Are you now seriously attempting to rationalize why dedicated players weren't chosen? You have all the right to be mad and demand to be taken in. Now, if you're gonna spew some nonsense about "false entitlement" I suggest you first raise your head above SE's boots.

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Software development life cycle = White Knighting. The logic is all over this place.

Yeah I'd say its exactly like false entitlement. You've played a game for two years. And now you think Square Enix works for you.

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Originally Posted by Vilhem

Friends: Hey guys, Dragonheart is wigging out! Lets mess with him! HAY Dragonheart we got alpha invites without being active account holders!
http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-s...ace_design.png

Dragonheart:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mQCc_PC6uV...1600/fuuuu.jpg

Uncle: HAY, Dragonheart is wigging out! Lemme mess with him! HAY, I got an alpha invite without being an active account holder!
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WHO CARES??????

Geez, do you want a tissue or what? lol Guess what? I've been playing FFXIV for a long time as well, and I didn't get in either. Big deal, I'm a Legacy member! Pretty soon, I'll be paying $9.99 for a subscription to this game while newcomers paying the cheapest rates will pay $12.99 for, as well as a couple of other perks. You mean to tell me that, with all I'm getting, I should be whining about not getting to ecperience ARR earlier through a bugged out alpha? What's even worse is that there are LEGACY MEMBERS crying about this. Ugh...


http://thebaseballhaven.files.wordpr...10/whining.jpg

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Originally Posted by Kallera

And now you think Square Enix works for you.

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You mean they don't?! D: I demand Soken and Yoshi bring me breakfast in the morning, fluff my pillow and tell me I'm pretty or I'm cancelling my subscription!

..../le-sarcasm... I couldn't help myself!

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Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder

WHO CARES??????

Geez, do you want a tissue or what? lol Guess what? I've been playing FFXIV for a long time as well, and I didn't get in either. Big deal, I'm a Legacy member! Pretty soon, I'll be paying $9.99 for a subscription to this game while newcomers paying the cheapest rates will pay $14.99 for, as well as a couple of other perks. You mean to tell me that, with all I'm getting, I should be whining about not getting to ecperience ARR earlier through a bugged out alpha? What's even worse is that there are LEGACY MEMBERS crying about this. Ugh...

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Offtopic - But I think the cheapest rates was 12.99$ with restricted character creation. The 14.99$ was for the full amount.

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

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Wat's NTAAAAAW mean ._.;

Seriously though, relax. Even if they aren't trolling you, there'll be more opportunities to test the game. Just cause you're not the first kid on the block to experience the game doesn't mean SE hates you.

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Originally Posted by AntonyB

Offtopic - But I think the cheapest rates was 12.99$ with restricted character creation. The 14.99$ was for the full amount.

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Thanks!

Fixed!

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Its not exactly random it said people will be selected based on their answers right on the sign up page. Maybe they did want some people who didn't play 1.0 much.

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It also said players with active accounts would be invited and that turned out to be inaccurate.