List of 7.1 PvP Change Grievances

Is there actually any evidence that GNB is imbalanced or is it just vibes?

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Originally Posted by Exmo

Is there actually any evidence that GNB is imbalanced or is it just vibes?

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Not a serious question. What evidence exactly would you accept?

The fact that the only posters coming in defense of it can only say "w-well it's only grossly OP below top level tho" which constitutes 99% of crystaline conflict games actually played is evidence enough.

The vast majority of supposed "top level players" play 60 games every few months, win trade and never touch CC again until the next major patch lmao who cares what they think?

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Originally Posted by DallsBeep

Not a serious question. What evidence exactly would you accept?

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I'm open minded. What evidence do you have other than a small number of people disagreeing with you?

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Originally Posted by Exmo

I'm open minded. What evidence do you have other than a small number of people disagreeing with you?

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Again, what evidence could a player have that you would accept?

It's not our decision what gets nerfed and what doesn't. I promise you one thing, more players will play GNB giving devs more raw data to work with. That's the best possible outcome from posting about it on the forums.

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Originally Posted by DallsBeep

Again, what evidence could a player have that you would accept?

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Again, just give me whatever evidence you have, if you have any.

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Originally Posted by Exmo

Again, just give me whatever evidence you have, if you have any.

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Giving you evidence would result in what? Are you a dev?

What would convincing you of anything possibly benefit me or the game in any way whatsoever?

I am probably part of the reason why Paladin got nerfed to begin with, and making cover more prevalent by advocating it's use. I can convince players just by drawing their attention to stuff, bold of you to assume I need evidence to make my point. As I said, if more players play GNB, good, that's exactly what's going to happen. I literally don't have to do anything else.

Alright, I'll take the bait: at what level of ranked pvp do you currently play? I am not saying that it is lower than us, but it made me really curious because you talk like a gold player.

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Originally Posted by DallsBeep

Giving you evidence would result in what? Are you a dev?

What would convincing you of anything possibly benefit me or the game in any way whatsoever?

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Ok, I'll take this to mean you have no evidence of your claim that Gunbreaker is busted in PVP.

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Originally Posted by Exmo

Ok, I'll take this to mean you have no evidence of your claim that Gunbreaker is busted in PVP.

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Of course you will sweety. And I'll take that as you are not dev and convincing you amounts to exactly jack shit, so nothing of value was lost.

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Originally Posted by Valence

you talk like a gold player.

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That's ironic, anyone who talks like this is an absolute scrub sweat. I started from below bronze this season as I missed the last season and made it out of gold in like idk, 20 matches or so. I'll see you out there sometime.

Good to see you've abandoned all pretenses of your non-argument though.

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Originally Posted by DallsBeep

Of course you will sweety. And I'll take that as you are not dev and convincing you amounts to exactly jack shit, so nothing of value was lost.

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You're very confident for someone without any evidence for his claims.

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Originally Posted by Exmo

You're very confident

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I know.



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Originally Posted by DallsBeep

That's ironic, anyone who talks like this is an absolute scrub sweat. I started from below bronze this season as I missed the last season and made it out of gold in like idk, 20 matches or so. I'll see you out there sometime.

Good to see you've abandoned all pretenses of your non-argument though.

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Call me names all you want, but the reason I am asking is to try and see where the difference in perception and appreciation stems from. What ranks do you usually reach or play in? As I said, you could be high rated crystal for all I know, and I would have completely misjudged the situation, but either way it would be informative to know why the ways we read the game mode are so incompatible. I cannot address the argument any more than this since we're not even able to agree on the FUNDAMENTALS of the game mode.

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Originally Posted by Valence

Call me names all you want, but the reason I am asking is to try and see where the difference in perception and appreciation stems from. What ranks do you usually reach or play in? As I said, you could be high rated crystal for all I know, and I would have completely misjudged the situation, but either way it would be informative to know why the ways we read the game mode are so incompatible. I cannot address the argument any more than this since we're not even able to agree on the FUNDAMENTALS of the game mode.

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You made a determination on what kind of player I am based on "how I talk" and I did the same. Seriously I have no idea how a "gold player" talks, that's just an idiotic statement, calling that out isn't "name calling" that's just an objective fact, sweat.

I'm diamond 2 ATM, but I haven't played ranked in a couple weeks. I manage just fine with crystal players. A lot of times they suck, hence me not giving two shits if you're crystal or not or what rank you are.

You literally call higher rated players incompetent and win traders, yet you call people scrubs? The irony. That's rich.

can you guys take it to dms
thanks

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Originally Posted by Valence

Muh rating

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I don't care lol

What happened to RPR LB? 3 times I had melees pummeling me and I used LB to fear them off and they ignored it and kept pummeling me into the ground - every time!

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Originally Posted by Gaiinahat

What happened to RPR LB? 3 times I had melees pummeling me and I used LB to fear them off and they ignored it and kept pummeling me into the ground - every time!

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Got a vod? I can think of a few reasons but not going to know unless I see it.

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Originally Posted by Atreus

Got a vod? I can think of a few reasons but not going to know unless I see it.

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What's a vod? I got a battle log. Out of all 3 instances only 1 guy was actually feared.

On another note, why does MCH still have to use Bioblaster without any defensive/escape skills?

Honeslty fated circle and brand on GNB you have ot like be right on them for the slow to hit otherwise they can escape it or just knock you back during the animation. If htey reduced potency and let you ignore knock back effects would be a ncie change or make next knockback have reduced effect

Not really the correct thread, I'm sorry, but I don't want to open another one just for this question, which is a continuation of a 7.1 problem:

Did input lag become worse yet again for anybody else after the 7.3 update? I could swear today my skills are even less responsive than yesterday.
Purify, guard and recuperate often not going off, skills and esp. my LB not reacting.

Maybe I'm biased but in terms of responsiveness matches feel a lot more frustrating than they did yesterday.