Keeper fangs nerfed in the update

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Originally Posted by chaotic-aristocrat

Another person that got a forum account just to talk about this. The benchmark was really lovely to see, but my main character is a moon cat and I can't understate how much the fangs are a part of her appearance for me. It's super disappointing to see them the way they are now - they look like normal human canines (I swear *my* canines are sharper than theirs!) rather than the cat-like fangs they had before. It may seem like a really small detail but it's one of the most unique parts about playing a moon cat and it'd be so disappointing if they were left the way they appear in the benchmark.

Unfortunately I doubt it's a bug either, since I compared to sun cats and they still have flat teeth. Moon cats still have canines, they're just extremely dull and barely visible now, to the point where they may as well not exist.

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https://i.imgur.com/8wP4cX9.png
Overall/otherwise the teeth do look better! But the fangs being missing is just really obvious.

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I want to respectfully add my feedback as well and echo this: please return the Moon Miqote's fangs back to their original, larger shape! Making them smaller as shown in the images of what I quoted was not necessary to make the mouth look better as much as the popular opinion is very negative on the change; it's very apparent one of the large appeals if not the largest to Moon Miqote was the fangs, and many very much love fangs in general. I may be planning to switch to femme Hrothgar, but please take our love for the fangs into consideration and make them bigger again!

Another moonie among the many that joined the forum just to bring it up, though a bit more specific.

Looking at our beloved chompers in a before & after side-by-side (such as above), it seems like the fangs are just a teensy bit further back? Or otherwise now face the sides a bit more like our own actual, real-life canines do. I think that's great! To be frank, as of Endwalker, the fangs come off more as a vampire thing than anything, and the new setup is mostly pretty good I think. My only issue is them seemingly getting filed down some; as has been pointed out ad nauseum already, the fangs are notably blunter, and possibly a bit shorter besides. If they were just a teeeeeeeeeeensy bit longer, and made pointier as well, that sounds like it would be the best of both versions.

I first started playing this game back in Heavensward and to date have logged over 8171 hours into the game. I made my official forum account just to add my voice to the masses. Please give me my sharp fangs back. The fangs were the only reason I decided to roll a Keeper over a Seeker and it would feel weird to have such a crucial part of my character's look and identity taken away.

Adding my two cents to the pile of complaints...

I don't mind the teeth looking more polished overall, but I would like the fang length maintained with what it currently is. Like many others have already said, the fangs are part of the reason I chose Keeper of the Moon to begin with.

Just had to add mine. Not super pissed or anything, but I want the fangs back. They're why I picked Moon over Sun nine years ago. I am an adorable predator. Please give them back.

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I am yet another first time poster to the forums , which just goes to show just how important the issue with keeper fangs is to me and other keeper players,as other have stated, its literally the only keeper trademark other than access to darker skin tones which now make characters look like props in a tim burton stop motion movie, I may have to consider changing to seeker since its kinda pointless to stay keeper with no fangs.

Just popping in here to add my voice to the volume: put those fangs back!

Please let us keep our Moon Cat fangs! They're so precious (I wouldn't even object to making them a bit more pronounced!) :)

WTF! Give them back!

Adding my support, I want the old Keeper fangs back! It's one of my favorite features of the Keepers of the Moon (and therefore my WoL and her twin).

Please let me keep my teeth.
When I chose moon cat, the fangs were a huge part of it.

I just poked them and I think my canines are longer than the new teeth, big hopes they lengthen them

Adding my voice to the choir, the fangs are a major point of going Keeper of the Moon, and the deciding factor for me personally. It'd be the same to remove the cat eyes from Seekers.
I'm liking the other changes I'm seeing for my character in the benchmark, but this isn't it. Let us keep our fangs!

Although I do appreciate the fact that they kept the fangs slightly, the length just doesn't have the same feel to it anymore. I always enjoy getting to see them when my Keeper laughs, or when she's joyous and you don't get that now with the changes so I would like to add my voice to seeing about keeping our pre-Dawntrail fangs.

They did the Keepers dirty, justice for the kitty fangs :c

GIVE ME FANGS GODDAMMIT

Allure looks and feels weird without her fangs. Very do not like. Please un-nerf, Squeenix!

Also adding in my displeasure to the Keeper fang nerf. Keeper fangs are one of their identifying features! Give them back!

Give us back our fangs! You can't have the creation screen literally say that "more pronounced canines" are one of the defining characteristics and then not give it to us! Especially when the supposed "larger ears" we have don't even make an appearance.

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Keeper fangs need to stay, please!!

Dear Squenix,

Please give us back our pronounced sharp canines and defined teeth! The smoothing of everything is just so sad and makes it very hard to even see the details of our Keepers. It's the one thing that distinguishes us from our cat-eyed compatriots and it means a lot to all of us!

Please keep our fangies pointy, long, and remarkable!

SE please, give my girl her fangs back! :c

Adding my support and to everyone's voices here as well. Their sharp and pronounced canines are definitely one of the biggest charm points for Keepers, and one of the reasons why I still play as one! So please SQEX, keep our fangs and make them as before! ;_;

Really hoping that Keeper fangs can be lengthened to better reflect their original length!

I was so shocked, when I saw my new fangs from benchmark.... please give me back my sharp fangs !!! don't take it from us, moon ket !! nyaaaa !!

adding support to this to hopefully get it fixed, keepers' fangs were honestly perfect the way they were! just having their original placement and length fixed is all we need

I've really loved the graphical update so far, but please, my Boy needs his chompers. Please return Keeper of the Moon Fangs to being pronounced and pointy!

I think my miqo ended up looking really cute in the benchmark but I really miss her fangs sob !!! They're the main reason I chose to play Keeper of the Moon. I made a forum account specifically to beg for the original fangs back,,

Please bring the fangs back! They're one of the main reasons I have two Keepers, aside from the big beautiful eyes. It made me extremely sad to see both of them without their distinctive teeth.

I have no idea what’s going on with SE collectively running a dull erasure over subtle - yet almost entirely beloved - racial traits for multiple races.

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They massacred my girl. I really hope they roll this back and give back the more prominent fangs, it just doesn't feel like thew same character without it. I'm hoping maybe it's just an oversight but who knows

Reminds me of the time I was getting my teeth cleaned and my dentist followed up saying he would schedule me for some cosmetic work to file down my incisors because they're a bit pointier than on most people. Like what the hell is wrong with you, get away from my nippers! But now, it looks like the tooth fairy has come to collect anyway.

I would very much like my catgirl's pointy fangs back!!
Also, this is a really small thing, but I always loved how Face 4 on fem Miqo'te would have their mouth held slightly open. I would really appreciate having this feature back!
https://i.imgur.com/yAp7uEE.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/DvriIwJ.png

Adding support to the return of the pointer fangs!

That's really weird. I can't believe they would do this on purpose, but on the other hand how can this be an accident?

Chime in another one upset about this change. I'm annoyed enough to come to the forums and speak out just because of this. If I wanted to be a sun seeker, I would have made a sun seeker. I liked keeper better of the two because the fangs were interesting, and somewhat unique. This change is frustrating, because it is like you took part of myself away that has always been there for years, and while it may mostly look like me, it isn't me anymore. I see this, from a character standpoint, as no different than a dentist who filed down my canine teeth because "they didn't like them, they look too much like fangs" without consent, which does also happen in real life. I don't want to be a midlander with cat ears, I want my teeth back.

Adding my voice to the thread, I've used the same derpy girl with her big eyes and big fangs ever since ARR. All the other minor changes to her face I can be okay with, I still see the same goober cat when I'm messing with the emotes and watching the benchmark. But the difference in the teeth is too jarring.

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Chiming in to say this is a rubbish change too. Like completely missing the point of the assignment of a "graphical update". It's like they went "WE NEED EVERYTHING TO LOOK SMOOTH" and really took that to heart, even on things that should be sharp like keeper fangs!

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Originally Posted by Shadolith

I would very much like my catgirl's pointy fangs back!!
Also, this is a really small thing, but I always loved how Face 4 on fem Miqo'te would have their mouth held slightly open. I would really appreciate having this feature back!
https://i.imgur.com/yAp7uEE.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/DvriIwJ.png

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I really like the gap too, but i also know some people don't. A lot of the problems we are having with this update makes me wish for much more detail control in character creation: Sliders for lip shape, fang length, eye shape, nose shape, stipe darkness, complection, RGB color selectors, hair highlight positions, etc. etc.. I know it isn't gonna happen overnight, but I hope they move in that direction.

I'm mostly pretty satisfied with the way my face 4 mooncat girl looks (the mouth + lips in general were a welcome change for me--I didn't like the slightly open mouth or the way the light reflected off the super glossy lips) but I can't help but feel disappointed in how blunt the fangs are now. Please bring back the sharper fangs!