Non-binary gender needs to be added to character customization

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Originally Posted by Renalt

Nope wait...you admitted to being Skiros. But if I was to dive deeper...(and I won't cause I'm tired) I could probably link Skiros to Titanmen from slip ups.

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also dont forget... I mean they are all fairly easy to identify, since they tend to be all copy/paste

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Originally Posted by hunkygladiator

It's really easy to verify. I don't exactly try to hide anything. Look up Skiros.

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https://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...671/class_job/

https://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...992/class_job/

If you really want to know which characters are titanmens characters, just look them up on lodestone. If they have more crafter and gatherer jobs at 90 than combat jobs they are titanmen alts. Really easy.

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Originally Posted by Ranaku

https://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...671/class_job/

https://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...992/class_job/

If you really want to know which characters are titanmens characters, just look them up on lodestone. If they have more crafter and gatherer jobs at 90 than combat jobs they are titanmen alts. Really easy.

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which by some "coincidence" is also how you can usually tell if someone is botting.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

which by some "coincidence" is also how you can usually tell if someone is botting.

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Which might be why he trolls. If the characters are already subjected to risk of ban via crafting bots, it makes more sense why he trolls on the forums. Though that's merely speculation because they might not be using their "main" as their display character. Same as me.

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Originally Posted by Nav_Fae

Which might be why he trolls. If the characters are already subjected to risk of ban via crafting bots, it makes more sense why he trolls on the forums. Though that's merely speculation because they might not be using their "main" as their display character. Same as me.

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hard to say, usually those types figure they are so much better and smarter than anyone else so will use an account linked to their "main" because... they are so much better and smarter will never be caught lol.

for all the tripe they post you would think they are banned often... which they dont really seem to be, SE seems to treat trolls as well as bots in game...

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Originally Posted by Kazhar

Certain females poses are better, certain males poses are better.
And I agree with that we should have two animations, not one, I was just advocating for the possibility of switching between the two.

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Yeah, its all about options which I feel some people do not understand. If you want it the old way for your character, then have at it, but some people want different things, so giving them the option isn't bad. Plus it makes 0 sense that your idle is different but your fighting style is essentially gender neutral. They either need to go all the way by making male and female fight different or just give them options between the two stances. That said, FF11 did give each race and gender their own style of fighting, so it just feels like they were going half way with that idea originally.

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Originally Posted by TitanMenII

As I said in the other thread to you, it is not tyranny to stand up for human rights. You are the one trampling on human rights here.

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It's within his human right to diagree with you

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Originally Posted by TitanMenII

You are the one trampling on human rights here.

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Be specific:

What HUMAN RIGHTS am I "trampling on"?

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Originally Posted by TitanMenII

When have I ever incited hatred? Only the far right on these forums are.

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Go play Skyrim, it offer all your needs and it permit the use of mods as well... as for FFXIV just enjoy it as it is and you can mold your characters into those directions that would suite you.

The game has not done anything intentionally wrong, which means you can play a female character as a guy and the other way around and no one would care, as you can go much more like what you feel like, if you want to reach deeper into that.

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Originally Posted by Renathras

Be specific:

What HUMAN RIGHTS am I "trampling on"?

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I have to ask, do you think TitanMen is serious in anything he says here?

https://i.postimg.cc/xTG3DMxk/9-BFED...D451-A1354.jpg

I identify as a raccoon so I would like a raccoon glamour and also a raccoon race, thank you very much.

https://static0.gamerantimages.com/w...e-Raccoons.jpg

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

I identify as a raccoon so I would like a raccoon glamour and also a raccoon race, thank you very much.

https://static0.gamerantimages.com/w...e-Raccoons.jpg

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All of us might be raccoons given that we constantly dig through garbage on this forum

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Originally Posted by SassyAssassin

https://i.postimg.cc/xTG3DMxk/9-BFED...D451-A1354.jpg

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Now you got me thinking, what does a company like Reactine do during pride month?

https://i5.walmartimages.ca/images/E...0201915537.jpg

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Originally Posted by SassyAssassin

All of us might be raccoons given that we constantly dig through garbage on this forum

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Truly blessed are we ? lmao

TitanMen II needs to become aware of the fact that such customization in a 10 year old MMO might be a bit expensive.

They are perfectly welcome to recommend any of the following games to their students if that is the desired experience: https://gamerant.com/nonbinary-frien...reation-games/

And yes, that OP chart is a bit weird to use when trying to convince a corporation that such an investment would pay off.

It wouldnt pay off to begin with.
Because remember, this game is apparently really bad and there is nothing to do/No Content.
So what does Non-Binary do to the game that would help / fix this issue?

Absolutely nothing.

They should just add a slime race.

The only acceptable nonbinary race are the Omnicron because they are actually of race that has no gender, as far as we know and that are the first step to achieving the dream of becoming a real Attack Helicopter.

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Originally Posted by Soge01

The only acceptable nonbinary race are the Omnicron because they are actually of race that has no gender, as far as we know and that are the first step to achieving the dream of becoming a real Attack Helicopter.

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Sound Logic.
I vote Omicrons for New Race
After we get Ivalice Moogles 1st, we need a new Smol Race.

the omicron are as much nonbinary as the pixies are. thex are now, but they most likely werent since they were of blood and flesh

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Originally Posted by Soge01

The only acceptable nonbinary race are the Omnicron because they are actually of race that has no gender, as far as we know and that are the first step to achieving the dream of becoming a real Attack Helicopter.

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Lgbtqiah

H stay for Helicopter

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

I have to ask, do you think TitanMen is serious in anything he says here?

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Probably sometimes.

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Originally Posted by DayHealer

Lgbtqiah

H stay for Helicopter

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Remove this transphobic post at once.

I share what was mentioned before about hermaphroditism or asexuality; those are actual BIOLOGICAL features that are found in real animals and not constructs created by humans. I doubt they'll will be added to the game tho, because doing so would require a complete implementation of dialogues, voice lines, assets and more for every race and any content around them, which is kinda problematic if you consider how much was released during those years. Doing something like that would be an immense work for the developers and may be unfitting lore-wise, so it would be easier to just add new races with those features, like the already mentioned Omnicron.

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Originally Posted by TitanMenII

Remove this transphobic post at once.

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You know it's wrong to bump your own threads just to stay on the front page

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Originally Posted by psychoEclipse

I share what was mentioned before about hermaphroditism or asexuality; those are actual BIOLOGICAL features that are found in real animals and not constructs created by humans. I doubt they'll will be added to the game tho, because doing so would require a complete implementation of dialogues, voice lines, assets and more for every race and any content around them, which is kinda problematic if you consider how much was released during those years. Doing something like that would be an immense work for the developers and may be unfitting lore-wise, so it would be easier to just add new races with those features, like the already mentioned Omnicron.

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In other words, you think a company's profits are more important than non-binary lives.

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Originally Posted by TitanMenII

Remove this transphobic post at once.

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That is VERY phobic to Attack Helicopter community!

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Originally Posted by TitanMenII

In other words, you think a company's profits are more important than non-binary lives.

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Nah, I think that objective, biological facts are MUCH more important than subjective beliefs that exists inside your own mind. Moreover, it would make no sense for many races to be hermaphrodites or asexual; it would be a bad written lore if implemented. I would like a race that is both or neither, but anything else is good as it is now.

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Originally Posted by TitanMenII

In other words, you think a company's profits are more important than non-binary lives.

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If you think the lives of nonbinary people depend on the customizable options of a fictional character which consists of pixels and digits, you have more serious issues to worry about.

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Originally Posted by TitanMenII

A NB student came into my office today and mentioned how they don't feel represented in media. As more people come out as non-binary, like Bella Ramsey (https://gamerant.com/the-last-of-us-...sey-nonbinary/), I think FF14 also has a role in being inclusive with gender identity as more and more people identify as NB, third gender, queergender or genderless:

https://assets.weforum.org/editor/4p...CWgjYYQt1I.PNG

I hope that Square Enix can make a progressive statement and let the first MMO include non-binary/third gender choices during character customization. If they want to go further, they could even make new racial models that have a queergender aesthetic, like Shadowbringers Urianger, which would allow for deeper customization as even people in the gender binary would also be interested in playing gender-ambiguous characters.

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I agree completely with this as a non binary person myself. I also think any transphobic comments should be removed here by the moderators. LGBT+ topics are not bait, and it should be carefully monitored so that we don't grow these mindsets in the community. We're being attacked more than ever before in society, and we need to be looked after as much as possible.

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Originally Posted by psychoEclipse

Nah, I think that objective, biological facts are MUCH more important than subjective beliefs that exists inside your own mind. Moreover, it would make no sense for many races to be hermaphrodites or asexual; it would be a bad written lore if implemented. I would like a race that is both or neither, but anything else is good as it is now.

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Biology SUPPORTS nonbinary identities. Educate yourself. Ova don’t make a woman, and sperm don’t make a man.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...is-not-binary/

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Originally Posted by Aword3213

If you think the lives of nonbinary people depend on the customizable options of a fictional character which consists of pixels and digits, you have more serious issues to worry about.

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If we don't even get pixels and digits right, how can we build society right?

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

I agree completely with this as a non binary person myself. I also think any transphobic comments should be removed here by the moderators. LGBT+ topics are not bait, and it should be carefully monitored so that we don't grow these mindsets in the community. We're being attacked more than ever before in society, and we need to be looked after as much as possible.

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Thank you. The transphobia in these forums are alarming. Stay safe.

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Originally Posted by TitanMenII

Biology SUPPORTS nonbinary identities. Educate yourself. Ova don’t make a woman, and sperm don’t make a man.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...is-not-binary/

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Exactly and both sexes available have neither so by your definition are non binary, so we can move along now as you have your options :P

Also not sure what the original link was to prove as she states she doesnt care what pronouns are used.

You're quite literally playing a gender fluid game even when it comes to clothing You're pretty free. This is the sort of thing that's been pushing us back the last several years. We don't need some small text in our character sheet no one is ever going to look at to validate us or to feel repressed. All it would do is generate more needles animosity doing more harm than good.

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Originally Posted by TitanMenII

If we don't even get pixels and digits right, how can we build society right?

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Our Society will surely collapse when there are growing number of self-entitled narcisstic people who do all the demanding instead of contributing.

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Originally Posted by TitanMenII

Remove this transphobic post at once.

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‘Get to the ‘choppa!’” Please give up this farce. Your posts and threads are laughably embarrassing and pathetic attempts to stir up constructive conversations. Do us a favor and just stop, as you are an embarrassment.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

We're being attacked more than ever before in society, and we need to be looked after as much as possible.

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We're being attacked more than ever because of posts like this. People were sympathetic when we were pointing out and trying to address real issues and just after basic rights and decency. With each non issue we try to put on the same level we burn that good will.