Linux

How many people use Linux? Of that, how many will play FFXIV?
And of those using Linux, how many have alternative numbers?

Simply not economical to spend the effort for returns so miniscule.

Linux has its niche, and its not gaming.

Making ports is all about time and money. It will never get a port if SE does not think enough people will buy it for that OS there fore it's a waste of time, and they will loose money in the long run.

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Originally Posted by Breladine

I dunno how you say it.. or how you install it, or use it, or play it...
Or where you download it, or what programs run.. but Linux, or line-ex, don't look like much fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...7JZXNy8#t=286s

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lol if the man doesnt know how run a cd rom then he shouldnt even touch pc

ps that video was posted in 2007 by man called himself deadtroll think that all need be said about that

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Originally Posted by Captaindownsyndrome

lol if the man doesnt know how run a cd rom then he shouldnt even touch pc

ps that video was posted in 2007 by man called himself deadtroll think that all need be said about that

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And it's attitudes like that, which pretty much explain why linux isn't popular and Windows is. People rather pay for something they understand then be ridiculed for not understanding something that's free

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Originally Posted by Yucie

Is OpenGL the entirety of the Linux OS? If so, then sure, pretty much any game from PS3 could make it to Linux (if what you say is true).. but, I'm pretty sure there's way more to deal with than just OpenGL.

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Yes, it isn't. But it's much more work to port something from DX to openGL (full rewrite) than making adjustments to the C code (loading different libs, etc) IMHO.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

Anecdotal.

Windows as an OS will come to a halt when there are issues with software, core dumps and blue screen are still a thing, updates always require restarts, etc. Linux is built from the ground up to not require reboots and to be extremely stable in case of software crashes.

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The only anecdotal thing here is you fanaticism.

Newsflash: Linux system updates require restarts just like windows system updates. While linux updaters typically include system AND program updates, it's system updates only on windows, which is why in most cases (no, not every time) you will have to restart your system. A point you are deliberately overlooking if you ask me.

You knowledge about windows coming to a halt on appcrashes seems to come from win98....

And I had my share of kernel panics and misbehaving drivers (rt2870, anyone?) on linux just like I had my share of BSODs on windows. Not to mention it's much easier to break a linux system if you don't know what you're doing.

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These are less of an issue for home users, but they're still a thing and I heavily dislike Windows for the way it manages crashes.

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Don't poke the gears and it won't crash. The only times windows 7 BSODs is when a driver misbehaves, which isn't the fault of the OS but the driver maintainer.

Each OS has it's share of quirks, no need to hate on either. The only question here is, which quirks are easier to live with for you, which is an individual decision.

For me, software under linux is often lacking completeness. They implement partial support for something and move on once basic functionality is working. I refuse to bend over backwards just because the software is free.

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Originally Posted by RoxyLalonde

And it's attitudes like that, which pretty much explain why linux isn't popular and Windows is. People rather pay for something they understand then be ridiculed for not understanding something that's free

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There is nothing hard about linux. For a user who just wants to do office and surfing as well as watching some videos or listening to music, the experience is not different from windows. If you think otherwise, then it's maybe time to try out a recent linux distribution.

Not before Mac OSX. And iPad 3.

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

There is nothing hard about linux. For a user who just wants to do office and surfing as well as watching some videos or listening to music, the experience is not different from windows. If you think otherwise, then it's maybe time to try out a recent linux distribution.

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I agree linux isn't hard but to get a larger mainstream user base the community needs to quit saber rattling that people who don't get how something works on it are idiots and start working on teaching them how to do it properly. I was using his response to the other player as a prime example of an ill will attitude to those who can't grasp at it as well.

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Originally Posted by RoxyLalonde

I agree linux isn't hard but to get a larger mainstream user base the community needs to quit saber rattling that people who don't get how something works on it are idiots and start working on teaching them how to do it properly. I was using his response to the other player as a prime example of an ill will attitude to those who can't grasp at it as well.

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Well actually, from my own experience, the majority of linux users are happy to help and don't look down at you, especially if it ends up making you a convert :P

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

Well actually, from my own experience, the majority of linux users are happy to help and don't look down at you, especially if it ends up making you a convert :P

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That's all well and good, but who are you going to run into first? More then likely it will be the man with an insult catered directly to you not getting it the second it existed.
I see the wrong people finding curious parties about various subjects all the time. Sufficed to say do you think belg would look favorably towards linux after the other guy's responses? Personally I see it as doubtful

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Originally Posted by RoxyLalonde

That's all well and good, but who are you going to run into first? More then likely it will be the man with an insult catered directly to you not getting it the second it existed.
I see the wrong people finding curious parties about various subjects all the time. Sufficed to say do you think belg would look favorably towards linux after the other guy's responses? Personally I see it as doubtful

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Being prejudiced against linux just because of that is silly. If we were to follow this example, we should quit playing FFXIV, since it's by a Japanese company and we all know that the Japanese only want our money and don't want to play with us, just like all Americans are fat and Germans are greedy bastards wanting to build the 4th Reich.... right?

Seriously though, people you describe are everywhere, but they are certainly not a majority.

Whaaaat? The linux community is by and large one of the most supportive and nice communities on the internet. It's generally only when you preface your discussions with "Linux sucks because" or "I hate linux because" or something similar, that they turn nasty.

From my experience Linux community isnt that bad, they all give you instructions like you have a CS degree though.

(Doesnt bother me since I've studied in the subject, but its bad if you wanted the fresh noobies :P)

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Originally Posted by tymora

Linux has its niche, and its not gaming.

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As a sane Linux user, I whole heartedly agree with you.

Linux's niche is anything it gets molded into.

I've had better performance running certain games on Linux before, as bad as that is.

Hang in there Linux gamers! As a OS X gamer I feel your pain, but Valve is making leaps and bounds in progress to support Linux and OS X(their recent efforts to build a Steam client on Linux demonstrates their committedness). If Valve proves that gaming on those platforms is profitable more developers will be more likely to support them.

No thanks. If you want to play games that aren't emulators or indie, get a Windows partition and some good hardware. While I understand that Linux is for those that are less keen on spending money (see the big debacle about people thinking that Valve's Linux ports should be free, and how charging is wrong), ARR is a commercial game with standards to follow. Porting it to linux would be a waste of time and resources for a not-very-visible minority. You'd be better off porting it to Android first.