Live Letter Thoughts

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

Having gone the entire MSQ start to end 2 or 3 times?...no.

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The MSQ where you have to be on a battle job and do dungeons, kill mobs, enter solo instances to defeat enemies and save allies, kill gods in trials.. that MSQ?

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

The MSQ where you have to be on a battle job and do dungeons, kill mobs, enter solo instances to defeat enemies and save allies, kill gods in trials.. that MSQ?

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And a lot of non combat activity.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

And a lot of non combat activity.

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So is waiting in PF for my savage que, but that doesn't stop it from being combat content.

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Originally Posted by Lustre

People really calling 10 minute yellow quests content lmao

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Indeed. While many of us appreciate well done story text, that really is all it is. Story alone does not make someone subscribe for longer than it takes to complete it, that's where content plays a role. Battle content such as Variant/Criterion dungeons should have released with 6.2 rather than being scheduled for 6.25, until then the only current content is PVP and once-a-week grinds. It just isn't comparable to the wealth of things to do when a Deep Dungeon or Exploratory Zone releases. Island Sanctuary, especially given the state it's in, could have used more time to polish and refine and in its place push forward battle content.

Story and the overall writing direction has many players at the point of a crossroads. The over-emphasis on humor and slice of life, coupled with a lack of nuance in approaching the themes of grief and loss has not been received well by a significant amount of players whose ranks only seem to grow as time goes on. "Forge ahead" just isn't how everyone deals with these things, but the heavy-handedness with which the message is imparted can led to an uncomfortable experience for these players when it is delivered by the Scions, now thankfully mostly out of the way, who did not experience many lasting consequences as a result of their actions in the story.

The potential "fixing" of the Void too early on (the trailer already showed dawn breaking in the 13th) would lead to the loss of a whole dark fantasy world in favor of...we don't know. The attitude adopted by the reaper who joins us also has to be considered, as it would be a bit difficult to believe that someone like her has as much goodwill and belief in Hydaelyn as some of the main cast ended up with despite having previously been suspicious of her. It would be more logical for her to have some amount of scorn towards the goddess that effectively abandoned her world in order to bring the WoL's description of the future to fruition.

Pandaemonium is another issue, as upon further analysis it appears we actually did see all 4 fights with the 4th seemingly being Lahabrea, shattering his sigil which was recently described as a "power limiter" so he could face us at full strength. This could imply his demise, and with it no clear path and a multitude of potential inconsistencies arising from Eric becoming our Lahabrea. The woman we fight is very likely Athena, revived by some strange means in Lahabrea's struggle with grief. It is one thing to decide that character will meet his end from the start, but if on the way there the story treats him as a caricature instead of a realistic, dynamic human being then that will severely hurt many player's perception of the character. I do not want to see him be preached to for not "forging ahead" and instead reacting to his grief in a more long lasting way. Some people are just like that, and although we can try to help them it's their choice as to how much of the person they lost they want to carry with them.

The depiction of mourning in general was handled much better in the past despite its rarity in the MSQ. Lord Edmont was clearly beside himself when Haurchefaunt died, and we certainly weren't there to be inappropriately cheery or positive in the face of his fresh grief. Endwalker's "forge ahead" message appears to suggest that we shouldn't react that way, and coupled with the clash between the ideas of reincarnation against permanent and lasting death it all makes for a very unusual situation. With the way in which Ancients were painted for not subscribing to that theme, despite them having every reason not to, it is understandable why some players are unwilling to sit through a repetition of that sort of story.

Despite the amount of research that seems to be going on behind the scenes, it does appear that not enough perspectives were considered when it came to the way in which loss and mourning are viewed by people. "Forge ahead" is just not the lived reality for many.

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Originally Posted by KittyKarasu

Please, on the very off chance that the Dev team sees this comment I beg you to please consider changing this in the future to make it more accessible to those of us who can't schedule 8 man groups for savage raids.

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Thing is, there's two difficulties of criterio dungeons. While he called the first normal and the second savage, it seems the normal ones will be savage difficulty, while the savage more like ultimate difficulty. The naming is very confusing, but under those premises it makes sense that the second will require savage gear, as all ultimate content does.
The other mode is savage difficulty and maybe even harder, since you gotta kill all the bosses in a single run and without much chance of prog, plus with very limited resses and trash also being dangerous. Yoshi said, compared to current savage fights, the first boss is like 1.5, the second like 3 and the third like 4, in terms of difficulty, so it's gonna be super spicy.

I'm like you, I wanna do savage but I can't think of committing my time to other 7 people, it's too many, so I'm excited for 4men savage content.

My only let down is I thought the difficultes would equal extreme and savage, rather than directly savage and ultimate, but I know people are happy to have such difficult content too so it's ok.

For my part, live letter wise:

I already was not convinced about island sanctuary, but waht we've seen made me completely uninterested. the whole thing looks very mobile game, mechanics-wise, and you don't even actually get to use your DoH/DoL classes, or craft stuff yourself. Eh. Maybe nice to take pictures in and stuff? I'm just sad the mandragora mount is tied to it cause it looks so cute.

Excited about Variant and Criterion. The rodent mount is like the best mount ever and I want it badly, though I've heard diffreent translations on how to get it so I'confused. Some said criterion, some said variant for completing all stories in it.
I don't like any of the new gear they've shown, but what seems to be the relics looks super cool so rip to my idea of skipping relics this time or only doing my main classes.

Kinda worried about the crit changes, cause unless they adjust potencies to it it will buff WAR so much and leave PLD in the dust too far behind the other tanks.

Story and raids are wathever, I guess we'll see. Also meh about another mount that miniaturizes you, but we'll see. ill have to rerun wassname dungeon in explorer mode to see the pre-story of Omicrons.
Shocked they said nothing about the new trial, not the trial itself but the eventual secondary questchain it's tied to? It can't be Tataru's, right?

Most exciting change is the one to the glamour dresser of course.

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

I remember back in my day when this thread was about a live letter. Then all the youngin's came in and made it a SAM change thread.

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It fits with the liveletter itself. I watched with Youtube and there was one person who constantly went on about the samurai skill. So its not a surprise seeing this happening here too.

About the live letter itself:

I am sorry Adult Vritra but I have no time for the void. Gonna tame animals and harvest stuff. I might go out to do the daily Omekron quests because those look awesome too.

Also cant wait to see the dance number.

So I loved it and wished that the patch was out next week because I cant wait to play it.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

Having gone the entire MSQ start to end 2 or 3 times?...no. There is a huge percentage of non combat MSQ...ALL the crafter / gatherer content is not combat related at all, there are many tribes questlines that arent combat either.



Many of those are chain quests, that last a lot longer than 10 minutes.

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Yeah, maybe in a years time when the entire chain is complete. For now and the foreseeable they're still 10 minute yellow quests. Tataru's grand adventure aka, talk to a couple NPCs, port to sharlayan, done. See you in 4-5 months for the next 10 minute adventure.

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Originally Posted by Lustre

Yeah, maybe in a years time when the entire chain is complete. For now and the foreseeable they're still 10 minute yellow quests. Tataru's grand adventure aka, talk to a couple NPCs, port to sharlayan, done. See you in 4-5 months for the next 10 minute adventure.

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Back in ARR, they made the patches full-length quest chains. Now it's one of the most widely reviled parts of playing through the MSQ, even after being trimmed down. So, blame the player base for it.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Back in ARR, they made the patches full-length quest chains. Now it's one of the most widely reviled parts of playing through the MSQ, even after being trimmed down. So, blame the player base for it.

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Hmm maybe we should put more fun and engaging battle content in the MSQ to improve the player experience rather than leaning too much into the visual novel sort of gameplay.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

The over-emphasis on humor and slice of life

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That was intentional to create a sense of calm and happiness after an expansion about despair.

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"Forge ahead" just isn't how everyone deals with these things

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Which is the reason Hermes becomes depressed and wants to end his own kind, and many people are not convinced there is a future and turn into beasts. Or if we want to go back to Stormblood, everyone we met was not convinced there was hope against the garleans. If the scions don't try to press a message of hope, then what are they supposed to do? Press a message of "yes, you're doomed, guess the enemy has got us"? The expansion is over, because the warrior of light gave up. The Garleans and Zenos are too strong. Probably no way to stop this final days, let's wait it out at Buscarron's Druthers.

It's necessary to push this message on people more than normal because of the fact they can turn into monsters if they lose hope. There probably isn't a reason to do it in other expansions.

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the Scions, now thankfully mostly out of the way, who did not experience many lasting consequences as a result of their actions in the story.

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Not in Endwalker, but at the end of ARR Y'shtola went blind, Thancred lost the ability to use magic, Alphinaud had his ego destroyed and Alisaie turned into an adventurer. They don't all need to be wounded in every expansion. We had Papalymo, we had Minfilia in Shadowbringers and Arenvald right before Endwalker, who had been fighting primals for us while we were away.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Hmm maybe we should put more fun and engaging battle content in the MSQ to improve the player experience rather than leaning too much into the visual novel sort of gameplay.

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Considering the ARR patches were loaded with trials, I'm pretty sure it's not that simple. But, y'know, keep doing your thing and blaming the stuff you don't like.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

It's necessary to push this message on people more than normal because of the fact they can turn into monsters if they lose hope. There probably isn't a reason to do it in other expansions.

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I'm choosing to highlight this specific part of your post because of how much it stood out to me. This is not a message that I feel does justice to the issues surrounding loss and grief. I expect better care for topics such as these from the story.

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has not been received well by a significant amount of players whose ranks only seem to grow as time goes on.

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This again? You DO realise that these sweeping statements, backed up by well..nothing..have zero credibility?

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"Forge ahead" just isn't how everyone deals with these things, but the heavy-handedness with which the message is imparted can led to an uncomfortable experience for these players when it is delivered by the Scions <snip>.

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Why do you keep making claims you speak for others..when you dont? You have ZERO idea what people think.

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Pandaemonium is another issue, as upon further analysis it appears we actually did see all 4 fights with the 4th seemingly being Lahabrea, shattering his sigil which was recently described as a "power limiter" so he could face us at full strength. This could imply his demise, and with it no clear path <snip>

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Or it could imply a dozen other things....maybe a good idea might be to wait until the MSQ is available, playing it and THEN drawing conclusions???

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Endwalker's "forge ahead" message appears to suggest that we shouldn't react that way, and coupled with the clash between the ideas of reincarnation against permanent and lasting death it all makes for a very unusual situation. With the way in which Ancients were painted for not subscribing to that theme, despite them having every reason not to, it is understandable why some players are unwilling to sit through a repetition of that sort of story.

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Speaking as someone who worked in a hospice, dealt with dying people and helping their families cope every single day with grief and loss for years?

You have no idea. None.

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"Forge ahead" is just not the lived reality for many.

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It is the lived reality for each and every one of us, a harsh inevitable reality we all have to face one day. The hardest choice of all is to find a reason to live after a shattering loss, to be able to face a new day in the knowledge that we must continue, that we mourn those we have lost , yet must return to our lives regardless..that the living still need us.

We have to forge ahead because we have no choice, we can either live and wallow in grief forever...or we can celebrate their lives by making each day we have on Earth the best we can.

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I birth a world of suffering to mire and plague. In one fleeting moment lives come and go, ever moving towards the unknown . And in that fleeting moment they cry for the answer to the question

Why, given life, are they meant to suffer, to die. As fragmented imperfect beings, yours is a never ending quest..a quest to find your purpose, knowing your end is assured.

To find the strength to continue when all strength has left you..to find joy even as darkness descends..and amidst deepest despair, light everlasting.

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You watched that cutscene, Aveyond..but you did not see it.

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Yeah, maybe in a years time when the entire chain is complete. For now and the foreseeable they're still 10 minute yellow quests. Tataru's grand adventure aka, talk to a couple NPCs, port to sharlayan, done. See you in 4-5 months for the next 10 minute adventure.

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Those chain quests are scattered across every zone in every expac.

LMAO this thread is actually a shit show

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

not exactly what Lodestone says.... so easy to use that as a metric in point of fact, especially since as you say, you only play "mostly one character"

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I started on another account in 2014. Would still be on that account if a) I could region swap and b) post on the forums.

It's not exactly difficult to sort.

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Originally Posted by Padudu

LMAO this thread is actually a shit show

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New to the forums? You'll get used to it.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

New to the forums? You'll get used to it.

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Not that new. :P We can all acknowledge how trash fire a thread has become without being baby new to the forums

I'm very much a loyalty until and past death sort of person, so this "forge ahead" messaging doesn't really resonate with me at best, while there are other players who have expressed their dissatisfaction in more emotional ways. It was not sufficiently sensitive nor did it account for people who don't react that way. In such a scenario, I feel it would've been a better option to express mournfulness and regret in more appropriate ways, especially through characters that have undergone more recent/prominent losses than the Scions.

A death that occurred 10 years ago for a side character is not going to have the same impact as more recent ones or ones that occurred in the main party, and I feel this should've been accounted for. The Scions simply haven't gone through enough in the recent past for them to go on to be the mouthpieces for a message such as this one. Thankfully with the retirement of most of them from the main party, the story can move past this controversial era and hopefully onto something more palatable and mature.

If you're going to build a story around themes, you have to be considerate that they will resonate and not be taken the wrong way by players. Extended internal discussions about the story that incorporated a wider range of perspectives may have accomplished this, and hopefully will be something they consider doing in the future. To summarize - I would not appreciate if after suffering some manner of loss in real life that someone came to me and tried to impart the message that Endwalker does of "forge ahead." My mind and my personality just doesn't work like that. Implying that people like me and others are wrong for being this way is rather exclusionary in a way I don't think they intended.

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Thankfully with the retirement of most of them from the main party,

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...says who?

Where? Who said this? When? Source?

Nothing I saw in any liveletter or any other announcement even REMOTELY mentioned this...so where did you get that conclusion from? I watched the entire liveletter last night, fully translated, no one said anything like that.

No one.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

...says who?

Where? Who said this? When? Source?

Nothing I saw in any liveletter or any other announcement even REMOTELY mentioned this...so where did you get that conclusion from? I watched the entire liveletter last night, fully translated, no one said anything like that.

No one.

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Why are you losing your shit (again)?

The conclusion comes from reading the text. The Scions officially disbanded and only a few of them seems to be involved in the current story (Estinien and Y'shtola). Whether that'll be permanent remains to be seen, but this is not in any way an objectively incorrect read of the current events.

So, it's just people hoping the Scions will retire, setting themselves up to be mad when the next dungeon rolls around and they're all back for the Trust system? Gotcha.

Actually it is.

None of them have "retired", and that "disbanding" was for the general public, "going back to the shadows for now" as their main job is done. The problems that do occur can be handled by the Grand Company of Eorzea, which is why it was created in the first place.

Which is what Alphinaud intended, as he and the others didnt want the Grand Companies leaning on them all the time..they have to learn to handle their own issues, and can call on the Scions when they are really needed. Nowhere in any MSQ or by any comments from YoshiP has he said they are "retiring characters", in effect they are off doing their own thing on standby until really needed.

None of the Scions are being "retired from the main party".

Would be nice if they had a few 'retire' but alas I doubt SE will ever do that.

What I thought was that this Live Letter confirmed that SE ignores player-feedback

" For just Samurai "

• Over 145 anti 6.1 SAM changes threads
• Over 8 Youtube videos of feedback
• Japanese Megathread on Fire

Because SquareEnix and Dev's

• Specifically asked us SAM's to try it out
• Specifically on 6.1 SAM changes
• Specifically to give feedback

And not an ounce of Acknowledgement. In fact to the point they act Death and Forgotten about it all, even ignoring their own Japanese backyard Forum.

This means after Healers not getting a response to their changes, WHM still stuck on Glare, from DRK DarkArts, to NIN TrickAttack changes, to MCH changes, to SMN changes, and now us SAM's, a lot of Gameplay is lost... without a valid response...

I still like FFXIV, I like the Story, heck I like Housing and I do still have a passion for helping players clear Extreme/Savage content on a daily even with Samurai's current state.

However...

Promising future changes? and not delivering them, giving us the cold shoulder, asking feedback and then not acknowledging it? for over 5 months now? I can see why healers were so pissed off for years about after a long wait time being told " if they want something more difficult? go play Ultimate " by Yoshi the man himself.

From Misshapenchair to Lucypyre to even Xenosys throwing satire jabs, Larryzaur, Trinnimortal and plenty other content-creators that already voiced it out, and this is not even including NicoNico JP's version of Youtube they are ignoring... at least we delayed DRG and AST negative changes or at least I believe SE would see that as a backlack and delayed it. Wise choice.

It's gameplay that was lost, to Fix absolutely nothing, while addressing zero changes they made recently, while promising that they were going to.

Is my main performing well? sure, it just is a lot less fun. Those future changes supposedly being an improvement? seeing is believing, but my good faith in SE ran dry. That's what the Live letter is to me. It validated that I was ignorant, to think they would listen to Player-Feedback.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

So, it's just people hoping the Scions will retire, setting themselves up to be mad when the next dungeon rolls around and they're all back for the Trust system? Gotcha.

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The only scions shown in the trailer were Estinien and Y'shtola (acting as a healer) during the dungeon segment. They were accompanied by the adult similacrum for Vrtra and the new reaper character. It is reasonable to draw the conclusion that they will constitute our party moving forward.

Even the players who enjoyed Endwalker the most have expressed the desire for new party members, so these are some positive first steps in the right direction.

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It is reasonable to draw the conclusion that they will constitute our party moving forward.

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Its a huge leap to assume anything based on three seconds of a trailer.

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the new reaper character.

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Is a character from the Void, and I didnt see anywhere where this person would be a regular character. We dont know who or what that thing is, what its role, if any will be.

No one knows. For all you know this may be the only time we will ever see him..to say that he will be a regular member of the Scions is drawing a very long bow.

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They were accompanied by the adult similacrum for Vrtra

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Varshahn is hardly likely to remain with the Scions since he is a simulacra for Vrtra as he is the Satrap of Thavnair, a duty he wont just walk away from on a whim. Varshan is going since Vrtra wont fit in the portal, and once the mission re Azdaja is completed,. he will return TO Thavnair to resume his duties.

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Even the players who enjoyed Endwalker the most have expressed the desire for new party members, so these are some positive first steps in the right direction.

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And this is based on.....what exactly? I have never said this nor has anyone else I know so..and Im getting tired of asking you this...how did you come to this conclusion?

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

So, it's just people hoping the Scions will retire, setting themselves up to be mad when the next dungeon rolls around and they're all back for the Trust system? Gotcha.

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People just need to realize that the Scions make SE too much money :P They're literally mascots at this point, they're not going away. What, do y'all think Graha simping for the WOL is in any way constructive or meaningful to the plot, and not just fan service to make the player more endeared to the character? People highly attach feelings to characters nowadays.

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Originally Posted by Padudu

People just need to realize that the Scions make SE too much money :P They're literally mascots at this point, they're not going away. What, do y'all think Graha simping for the WOL is in any way constructive or meaningful to the plot, and not just fan service to make the player more endeared to the character? People highly attach feelings to characters nowadays.

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I think that the game would do well to incorporate more diversity in the main party with characters such as Vrtra and this new reaper, along with men more in the way of traditionally handsome masculinity as opposed to G'raha Tia. While the opinions on that character of the FFXIV players who frequent twitter are readily apparent, it would be curious to see some research done on how he was received by the crowd that isn't. A party full of scholars that lean heavily towards neutral or safe designs doesn't provide the same sort of choice and visual variety found in the average rpg.

Many are eagerly awaiting to see a closeup of Vrtra's adult form, which is more befitting of his status as a being as old as he is. Au Ra men are generally regarded as more attractive than both Elezen or Midlanders, so having one in the party is a good change of pace. G'raha Tia however isn't all that remarkable in terms of build or facial characteristics, and his behavior towards the player is viewed as off-putting by no small amount of people. He received the adventure he so desired in Endwalker, so now would be a good time for him to bow out and let other male leads take over his role.

This new reaper, given her facial graphics quality and unique set of armor may end up competing with Y'shtola for the role of this game's postergirl moving forward. So long as her character is fleshed out sufficiently and taken seriously enough, I daresay she has a good chance of beating her. The fact that we had only one adult woman in the main party for so long was getting rather boring, but now there is the needed variety for those of us who simply don't like Y'shtola for either her looks or due to the way the story has handled her.

With a party composed of us, Estinien, Y'shtola, Vrtra, and the reaper, I think we have a solid adventuring group moving forward that strikes a decent balance. Us, a hardened soldier, *1* scholar, a mystic being, and a sombre heroine. While I am not opposed to new additions on top of these, I don't think it would be beneficial to call upon the remaining scions. The remaining slots should go to characters of other races and classes, such as Viera, Hrothgar, Roegadyn, even Lalafells. One elezen and one miqote is enough for the time being.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

Actually it is.

None of them have "retired", and that "disbanding" was for the general public, "going back to the shadows for now" as their main job is done. The problems that do occur can be handled by the Grand Company of Eorzea, which is why it was created in the first place.

Which is what Alphinaud intended, as he and the others didnt want the Grand Companies leaning on them all the time..they have to learn to handle their own issues, and can call on the Scions when they are really needed. Nowhere in any MSQ or by any comments from YoshiP has he said they are "retiring characters", in effect they are off doing their own thing on standby until really needed.

None of the Scions are being "retired from the main party".

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So until Yoshi-P personally spoonfeed it to you, you're not allowed to draw your own conclusions from the text? You people sure have an incredibly warped view of "objectivity".
Maybe the Scions will come back full force next patch, maybe not. But this isn't an incorrect read of the story as most of the previous main cast seems disconnected from the current arc, and depending on the direction it goes, we could be headed towards a Heavensward-like expansion mostly focused on a reduced cast, which would be a breath of fresh air in my opinion. Or they will go the Shadowbringers/Endwalker route and have them with us all the time always, who knows?
You certainly don't so stop with the dumb outrage over other people's views.

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My point precisely. Thank you. We dont know.

Assuming that "members of the Scions are being retired" along with his absurd claims on what "a large number of people want" is what i am getting at. To restate:

Its a huge leap to assume anything based on three seconds of a trailer.

Twitter as a source.

LMAO.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

My point precisely. Thank you. We dont know.

Assuming that "members of the Scions are being retired" along with his absurd claims on what "a large number of people want" is what i am getting at.

Twitter as a source.

LMAO.

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So where's your source that people want to keep the Scions around? Let's not quote paid journalists again!

I dont have one, i dont know. No one does. Never said I had a source..I said I didnt know.

Until we get the new MSQ done, none of us has a clue what is going to happen . But Im not the one making claims like this

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Thankfully with the retirement of most of them from the main party,

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along with a broad assumption that this "reaper character" and Varshahn will become regular members...after seeing a three second trailer.

We wont know till after 6.2.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

My point precisely. Thank you. We dont know.

Assuming that "members of the Scions are being retired" along with his absurd claims on what "a large number of people want" is what i am getting at.

Twitter as a source.

LMAO.

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But you too are doing it with your inexact wording. You said "None of the Scions are being retired from the main party", but wouldn't the truly objective way to phrase it be "We currently have no official confirmation that the Scions are being retired from the main party"?

There's no end to that rabbit hole you see.

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"We currently have no official confirmation that the Scions are being retired from the main party"?

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Thats correct. And until we have official confirmation...as I keep saying, we dont know.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

I dont have one, i dont know. No one does. Never said I had a source..I said I didnt know.

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Then why drag him down for his source lol when you're not even going to attempt to find your own sources that plenty of people have enjoyed the story? Twitter is a good place to start as any since you're looking at people's opinions. What, do you think Yoshi is going to poll and release results that shows that the player base didn't like EW popular to contrary belief?

I don't even dislike EW at all, I actually rather thought it had some strong moments in the story. But let's not pretend that it doesn't have it's problems.

Btw, you are also painting wide strokes of what's going to happen (no members will be retired, plenty of people did like it) and then just deflecting any opposing opinion with "Well, we technically don't know!" It's called speculation, dear.

Such shitshow. Anyway.

for how much I'd love to get rid of scions more than anything else, I don't think that's happening.
The current party only has 2 scions, yes, because they're the ones we're going into the void with. But it's not like we're moving to the void for life, you know, it's just a trip. And meanwhile, we have Graha in the alliance raids series.
The rest are likely to join us when we get back, but honestly we have absolutely no clue if that's the case or of what will happen then, we're just starting our trip to the void and that's all we know.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

So if all you got out of 6.1 was 3-4 hours of content it sounds like you did the MSQ and that's it (other than the PvP) since it takes 3-4 hours to get through the 6.1 MSQ unless you're cutscene/dialog skipping.

So you skipped:
Part 1 of the Alliance raid
Endsinger's Aria
Ultimate
Ultima's Bane Unreal
Tataru's Grand Endeavor
Omega: Beyond the RIFT
Somehow Further Hildebrand Adventures
Arkasodara Tribal Quests and raising your rank to Bloodsworn
Ameliance Custom Deliveries and increasing your reputation for the title and glamour
Doing the Excite-a-tron for the new rewards that were added
crafting the new gear and housing items

Can't do all of that in 3-4 hours and most of it is PvE content (there's more to player versus environment than just killing a monster). Maybe you should check out all the things you missed.

It's your choice to tunnel vision on a tiny segment of what the game offers but it completely false to state that the game does not offer more when it does but you're choosing not to do it.

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"You think the game is too easy and boring? Just do the ultimates if you are bored!"
Who do you think you are? Yoshida? lol

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Originally Posted by Silverbane

I'm sure people had speculated that you might be a no-life, but thanks for removing any doubt.

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The GCBTW in action.