2.0 Excitement thread

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Originally Posted by Rydin

I am betting it will end up being some Lunar Cry type event that will saturate the world in the most satisfying MOBs and boss fights

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Hopefully that will be what happens.

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Originally Posted by Allcars

I want awesome lighting effects awesome non resource intense shadows.

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YES... YES and MORE YES!!!!!

I do enjoy more dynamic lighting. Many areas in the game now are either too bright or there is some unnatural lighting emanating from walls and such...

Any news on the walking animations/system? Would like to know if they reuse the code from 1.0 or do a new one from scratch.

I cant wait!!! NEWS!!

Like everyone else, I can't wait for all the technological improvements and game mechanics improvements, however.....

Above all else I can't wait to see if 2.0 will immerse and suck me into the world like FFXI did. For those who dislike any FFXI referencing, quell your flames please. I just want FFXIV 2.0 to feel like a world and an adventure, not a game. This is akin to how some people get immersed into a book, movie, music, etc.

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Originally Posted by Karazaki

Like everyone else, I can't wait for all the technological improvements and game mechanics improvements, however.....

Above all else I can't wait to see if 2.0 will immerse and suck me into the world like FFXI did. For those who dislike any FFXI referencing, quell your flames please. I just want FFXIV 2.0 to feel like a world and an adventure, not a game. This is akin to how some people get immersed into a book, movie, music, etc.

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Hopefully it does that for you. I strongly believe the FFXI experience from 2006~2009 can not be replicated on any other game, ever.

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Originally Posted by Holland

Hopefully it does that for you. I strongly believe the FFXI experience from 2006~2009 can not be replicated on any other game, ever.

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Yeah... I'm getting the feeling that XI was a one time deal :(

Seeing another thread recently has made me realize there must have been a place to store all of my 2.0 excitement, so here it is!

*puts it in a time capsule to be revisited many moons from now*

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Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba

Seeing another thread recently has made me realize there must have been a place to store all of my 2.0 excitement, so here it is!

*puts it in a time capsule to be revisited many moons from now*

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I do want to come back to these threads in 2013 and enjoy how much anticipation was in the air

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Originally Posted by Rydin

I do want to come back to these threads in 2013 and enjoy how much anticipation was in the air

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It is pretty neat! Even a document I made around launch with my "grounded" wishlist, seeing more than half the things on that list crossed off.

i.e. NPC repairing accessories, manually selecting home points, actions do not reset when switching classes, invite to party from a distance, claim multiple enemies, item search through wards, etc.

some things still on my list that I'll plant here that will probably make me giggle post 2.0:

mailbox,
remove linkshell members while offline or from a distance,
linked market wards,
item search by name (1.22),
buyback,
static level-range selection on local leves,
ability to right click on a person's name during chat to send a whisper/party invite/blacklist,
ability to right click on an item to buy or sell,
drag-and-drop action bars

I don't know about you guys, but CGI trailers just don't do anything for me. I'd much prefer gameplay. Really don't care much that we'll see 2.0's opening at E3 for that fact, unless it has some surprises hidden in it such as new classes. The weeks after the event will probably be more interesting, since we'll be getting more info from the dev team.

Anyway, the two big things for me are community options and zones. The former should've been in from the start (but hell, so should a lot of other things). Tying it into PvP, bosses (such as with the summon system), and other things is always neat. Helps to really push friendships and rivalries. The latter I really didn't care much for until I tried out FFXI and started running around there. Made me realize just how poor of a quality everything in XIV 1.0 was in that regard.

Rather than making a new topic, I thought I might rehash my excitement here.

*faints until 2.0*

I'm curious what type of turnaround times we'll see once 2.0 is released.

I'm imagining that core game changes will have been made and that tweaking will occur rather than overhauls. And that content and little fixes will happen more frequently. I wonder.

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Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba

Rather than making a new topic, I thought I might rehash my excitement here.

*faints until 2.0*

I'm curious what type of turnaround times we'll see once 2.0 is released.

I'm imagining that core game changes will have been made and that tweaking will occur rather than overhauls. And that content and little fixes will happen more frequently. I wonder.

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Once 2.0 is released I can see there being around 2-3 months of tweaking then full-steam ahead for new content

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Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba

Rather than making a new topic, I thought I might rehash my excitement here.

*faints until 2.0*

I'm curious what type of turnaround times we'll see once 2.0 is released.

I'm imagining that core game changes will have been made and that tweaking will occur rather than overhauls. And that content and little fixes will happen more frequently. I wonder.

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The game is already made (you're kind of playing it), the tweaking being done is 2.0.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

The game is already made (you're kind of playing it), the tweaking being done is 2.0.

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I wouldn't call a brand new server system & setup and a brand new graphics engine a "tweak"

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Originally Posted by Fear

I wouldn't call a brand new server system & setup and a brand new graphics engine a "tweak"

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New maps from the Ground up is "tweaking"? New Content up the gazoo is Tweaking?" Seventh Umbra Era Storyline when we get into 2.0 is "Tweaking"? If all those are little.. then whats a massive reconstruction then? :p

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Originally Posted by Fear

I wouldn't call a brand new server system & setup and a brand new graphics engine a "tweak"

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It's not a new game either like some still believe. They already established with the exception of map redesigns they're simply importing 1.x stuff over to the new client and servers which basically means it's more just updating than anything. Obviously after new content they'll still have to make adjustments, but 2.0 is more of a glorified patch which already has tweaks done to it since that's basically what an overhaul is.

This is why 2.0 is in such a make or break position, since it'll allow for some stuff 1.x can't do, but it can also still have some of the problems that were a turn off for players to begin with, i.e interface lag. So it's more people still expecting it to be a brand new game rather than just a overhaul to the core system.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

New maps from the Ground up is "tweaking"? New Content up the gazoo is Tweaking?" Seventh Umbra Era Storyline when we get into 2.0 is "Tweaking"? If all those are little.. then whats a massive reconstruction then? :p

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They could have always added content being released during 2.0's life span in 1.x if they so chose, would it have been wise to, though?

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Originally Posted by Starlord

New maps from the Ground up is "tweaking"? New Content up the gazoo is Tweaking?" Seventh Umbra Era Storyline when we get into 2.0 is "Tweaking"? If all those are little.. then whats a massive reconstruction then? :p

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I'm gonna turn my stalking senor on >.> lol

But I agree lol, if those are a "tweak" I'd like to see what a reconstructed game is.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

They could have always added content being released during 2.0's life span in 1.x if they so chose, would it have been wise to, though?

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They could.....if the server system supported it, which it doesn't.

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Originally Posted by Fear

I'm gonna turn my stalking senor on >.> lol

But I agree lol, if those are a "tweak" I'd like to see what a reconstructed game is.



They could.....if the server system supported it, which it doesn't.

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I do it because I care, False information always ends up bad.. if 1 days is wrong or out of place the Forums have a hissy fit over it... so I figure I play the part :P.

Your going to stalk me? Well don't I feel special! :P

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Originally Posted by Elexia

It's not a new game either like some still believe. They already established with the exception of map redesigns they're simply importing 1.x stuff over to the new client and servers which basically means it's more just updating than anything. Obviously after new content they'll still have to make adjustments, but 2.0 is more of a glorified patch which already has tweaks done to it since that's basically what an overhaul is.

This is why 2.0 is in such a make or break position, since it'll allow for some stuff 1.x can't do, but it can also still have some of the problems that were a turn off for players to begin with, i.e interface lag. So it's more people still expecting it to be a brand new game rather than just a overhaul to the core system.



They could have always added content being released during 2.0's life span in 1.x if they so chose, would it have been wise to, though?

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New Content does not equal Tweaks I'm sorry.

A Tweak to me is a Hotfix. those are tweaks. With 2.0 it's more than a mere Tweak.. if that is a tweak... then 2.0 must be doing something wrong then >.> according to your information.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

New Content does not equal Tweaks I'm sorry.

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2.0 is an overhaul, it's not content additions. They can add content whenever they want, they don't need new client/servers every time they want to add content to this game.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

New Content does not equal Tweaks I'm sorry.

A Tweak to me is a Hotfix. those are tweaks. With 2.0 it's more than a mere Tweak.. if that is a tweak... then 2.0 must be doing something wrong then >.> according to your information.

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You're being way too literal lol.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

2.0 is an overhaul, it's not content additions. They can add content whenever they want, they don't need new client/servers every time they want to add content to this game.

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If you read the PDF's you would see they are adding content.. but you said its a "tweak" which 2.0 is far from a tweak... but since your saying it now that 2.0 is a overhaul.. we don't need to argue if we agree.

Althought they may be tweaking certian aspects most of what 2.0 offers is brand new systems and content (servers, maps, pvp, new areas, new systems, AH, Free Companies, Summoning, Playing housing etc.)

*EDIT* Damn, I just noticed your on my server to! I need to go spread false info around Ul'dah

I can just feel the 2.0 information coming. Like a cool summer thunderstorm rolling in, ready to rain down information, screenshots, and movies on us.

...OK, maybe that's a little too hopeful. If not a downpour of 2.0-related stuff, then at least a few sprinkles of information happening more and more often :) I know E3 is coming, but somehow I thought we'd get a screen or something before then. Maybe not, though.

Anyway, I'm not complaining. I think they should release 2.0 information whenever they think it would strategically work to their advantage to do so. However, that doesn't stop me from wanting information like a child wants candy. Yoshi-P, can I have a screenshot? Can I? Can I? Huh? Can I? I want a screenshot! Yoshi-P! ..... ........ Bayohne! Can I have a sreenshot? Can I? Can I? Huh? Can I? Mom....er....Yoshi-P said I could! So can I have one?

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Originally Posted by Fear

Althought they may be tweaking certian aspects most of what 2.0 offers is brand new systems and content (servers, maps, pvp, new areas, new systems, AH, Free Companies, Summoning, Playing housing etc.)

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Exactly, everything in a whole.. is being considered an overhaul on an overall basis. Majority of it being System related work. However, according to the PDf's it would seem a significant amount of content is being added in 2.0.. and since 1.xx is basically getting dumped.. where's the New content? So I consider that an overhaul as well.. Overall in content related to the events after Meteor and anything else they can muster.

Edit: Don't you dare!

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Originally Posted by Elexia

It's not a new game either like some still believe. They already established with the exception of map redesigns they're simply importing 1.x stuff over to the new client and servers which basically means it's more just updating than anything. Obviously after new content they'll still have to make adjustments, but 2.0 is more of a glorified patch which already has tweaks done to it since that's basically what an overhaul is.

This is why 2.0 is in such a make or break position, since it'll allow for some stuff 1.x can't do, but it can also still have some of the problems that were a turn off for players to begin with, i.e interface lag. So it's more people still expecting it to be a brand new game rather than just a overhaul to the core system.



They could have always added content being released during 2.0's life span in 1.x if they so chose, would it have been wise to, though?

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I have to agree with everything here. When 2.0 hits, I'm simply expecting rebuilt maps, less interface lag and a few more options that couldn't be done in 1.xx.

I'm looking forward to 2.0 very much, but I'm not expecting a brand new game.

For me, with a new UI, this game will be as good as new. >.>' lol

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

For me, with a new UI, this game will be as good as new. >.>' lol

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That + Moogle item delivery and a proper AH :D

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Originally Posted by Fear

That + Moogle item delivery and a proper AH :D

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And maps. Those four things are pretty much my only remaining complaints about the game. :)

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Exactly, everything in a whole.. is being considered an overhaul on an overall basis. Majority of it being System related work. However, according to the PDf's it would seem a significant amount of content is being added in 2.0.. and since 1.xx is basically getting dumped.. where's the New content? So I consider that an overhaul as well.. Overall in content related to the events after Meteor and anything else they can muster.

Edit: Don't you dare!

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I thought this from the begining when yoshi first stepped in and started patches(before the roadmap,etc). I saw it were half of his team was fixing the game to improve its qualtiy for ps3 release, then the other half is developing content to be added after ps3 release.

doing this to keep pc players busy while the new ps3 crowd would do the content that was fixed then looking forward to the newly added content. The pc players yes would help the new ps3 players since we gobble up content with each patch at the same time doing the newly added content. When the roadmap finally came out, the whole thing with the meteor,etc made sense SE from early on was doing what i thought but slightly different becuase the content prior to 2.0 is never to be playable again.

Overhaul, restructuring, tweaks, revisions, fine tuning, updating

You guys sound like my ex girlfriend
Why do we have to "label" it

You could call it a Self-propagating, Systemic multiverse bilateral excursion and it wont change what it is
Whatever it is, what the PDFs describe, whatever you want to call it... it has me excited!

/wave Starlord ^^ Glad to see you excited about this, I am too ^^.

I read over the "FFXIV Updates, Version 2.0, and Beyond (Last updated 10/14/2011 by Naoki Yoshida)" Link http://gdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/dow...Content_EN.pdf

And I was excited about these:

Creation of more character customization options (e.g. , hairstyle).
Ability to walk and view character in game environments and use emotes as part of creation process. (I hope we can redo our already created characters. I want highlights! or I want to go completely white hair lol)

Release of a "mannequin" system for one-touch changing of gear sets.
Gear equipped to mannequins will not take up inventory space.
Mannequins available can be increased via certain quests and battle content. (this sounds cool, to me it seems like the mannequins we had in 11. So i'm thinking we would have our own moghouse or w/e for display?? Otherwise, where would it be setup??)

New summoning ability available to certain jobs and classes after version 2.0.

Release of in-game player communities known as Free Companies. Planned for version 2.0.
Free Companies can be formed by as few as 4 players by submitting an application to a Grand Company.
Free Company-specific content to earn points used to improve company rank, gain access to personal
estates, perform cooperative synthesis. Planned for four-phase release after version 2.0.

Release of a delivery system and mail system for version 2.0.

Release of a content finder system after version 2.0.