Petition to SE - Make More Cash Shop Items Account Wide

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

You'd have a much better case if they went and made the expensive statues' emotes one-chara only. As it stands, minions that come with physical merchandise are bonus items that come with the purchase. People no doubt will buy it for the minion, and I'm not judging the prices for the OST either way. Just that you're making it sound like it's a $50 single-chara minion...

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To be fair, the same is true for the emotes that came with both the Odin and Shiva statues. You pay $150 USD for the statue, not an emote (at least I hope); same as you do with artbooks and OSTs. This logic kind of falls flat when it's applied to both purchases...or it should be, anyways.

Really, the developers should try to get SE to give them funds to upgrade infrastructure so that there CAN be more account-wide items. They shouldn't say they're "reserving space for the more expensive merchandise bonuses" and then release more $24 USD mounts on the Mogstation. It's just like with their defense of the single-character Wind-Up Yotsuyu: "there isn't enough server space to store many more account-wide items" > has released 4 account-wide cash shop mounts since.

I normally don't care about the cash shop, and don't get up in arms over it, but that is really scummy on their part. Not gonna lie.

we need to keep this on the front pages to get more attention/support if we want this! o/

additional idea idk if it's in here: glamour dresser + armoire being accountwide!

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Originally Posted by boopadoop

additional idea idk if it's in here: glamour dresser + armoire being accountwide!

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Ooooh, I like. So much I'm going to go off a bit and generalize it.
If nothing else, introducing a new inventory system will help get around the conflict of several charas having the same unique item, and getting around the merging headache.

Create an account-wide storage area, with the main objective of storing and managing your Mog Shop and promotional items.

How would it work?
The Mog Mail containing the items will be sent to only one character. We know Mog Mails of such nature are theoretically limitless as they're not supposed to persist, so we already got around the problem of the limit of account wide keys they can manage.
Mog Shop purchases will let you designate which character to send it to. For Promotional codes, you can set a character to receive the items by default in the Mog Station. If no character was selected, they can either just tell you to set it before entering the code, or use a default of your oldest character. After entering the code, they tell you which chara it was sent to so you don't have to go looking for it.

The items attached to the Mog Mail:
Ideally, they won't even land in your inventory and will go directly to this new hypothetical storage area. But let's say your chara needs to pick them up. They can't use them directly, they can only place them inside the new storage bubble (henceforth referred to as 'bubble'). From THERE you can pull out usable versions of the items on every character you have on that service account.

Additional QoL needed:
Gear-sets containing more than the one item will be condensed into gear coffers. That way instead of taking up 5 slots from this hypothetical bubble, it only takes one. Characters take out a copy of the coffer, and then open it to get the items inside. (Though this would be nice to have now, too)

Ensuing QoL:
You don't clutter charas' inventories with gear you don't want just to clear up your mog mail.
Your mog mail is clugged on only the one chara, not on every alt you make.
If you accidentally discard an item, you can just pull a new copy from the bubble. They're all untradable and unique anyway. For the sake of simplifying this, housing items will be treated as consumables and should only be sent to the one character to be used on that character otherwise it's asking for abuse.

Likely issues:
Like all forms of inventory, this will be limited. We can't escape this, and this is ultimately the reason given why they don't just make everything account wide. But this system at least helps this too, if not solve it completely.
Use the inventory space on our characters. Let us add and remove items from the bubble.

Let's say the bubble can contain 200 items at any given time. With the gear set being reduced to coffers you already have room for most items, but some of us might actually have more, and more are being released all the time via promotions and Mog Store.
By letting us decide what items stay in the bubble, we expand its storage. The trade-off is, obviously, removing account-wide access to these items until they're put back in the bubble. But the concept of alts being used as inventory extensions is not a new concept, nor is it going anywhere. You could buy every single mog shop item, get every promotional item, and this storage alt, between its inventory, 2 free retainers and saddlebag, will likely still have some room left. And this is inventory space SE is already willing to give us as part of our base subscription!

Pros:
Solves basically every complaint they had so far by utilizing character inventory, which is something they include in your base subscription.

Cons:
Moves the management responsibility from SE to the players as we're the ones responsible to keep track of items and make sure items are available to alts when we want them to. But I personally think it's a small price to pay.

I'm sure the servers would melt to the earths core the moment they tried to make an account wide inventory system.

The servers melt on a day to day basis already though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Thanks for the good ideas! Keep them coming, and also thanks for keeping the thread in mind to bump it a bit to get more notice /bow

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

The items attached to the Mog Mail:
Ideally, they won't even land in your inventory and will go directly to this new hypothetical storage area. But let's say your chara needs to pick them up. They can't use them directly, they can only place them inside the new storage bubble (henceforth referred to as 'bubble'). From THERE you can pull out usable versions of the items on every character you have on that service account.

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The Mog Mail is rate-limited. When I created a new character on a server I haven't played on, and went to retrieve every account-level item... it took about 3 minutes, you could only retrieve one item and then have to wait like 30 seconds.

Cross-account (eg server independent) inventory is a bad idea because that will lead to market manipulation hell and give RMT easy ways to launder money/items to servers they can't create accounts on (eg congested worlds)

The way to actually deal with multiple characters on the same server is a lot more obvious, as people have been abusing it already. The "Solo FC" is how players exploit this already. The proper way would be to create a "family register" mechanic where you can specify any character on the service account, and that sends a 2-way confirmation to the other character. From that point any gear in the glamour dresser and any gear in the armoire can be glamoured (but not withdrawn.)

Petition to SE - Make More Cash Shop Items earnable trough game activities.

For example I just returned to WoW and I received this awesome mount from clearing Argus the Unmaker on Heroic difficulty. Before I left WoW back in November 2016 I also got yet another cool mount from beating Xavius on heroic as well. And these are just from current expansion, I have many other cool mounts from beating final bosses on heroic difficulty from earlier raids in previous expansions.
And in Argus case he also drops a totally different mount if you beat him in Mythic difficulty ...

How about we can get some cool mounts for beating Neo, Gkefka in Savage and from the Ultimate fights?

I don't want to wave my visa card in front of my screen, I want to get cool stuff like this from clearing 'hard' content.

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Originally Posted by Fhaerron

How about we can get some cool mounts for beating Neo, Gkefka in Savage and from the Ultimate fights?

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The Savage tiers do give mounts, though...

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

The Savage tiers do give mounts, though...

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Oh I didn't knew. All of them do?

Haven't done the newer ones as I no longer play as I got tired by all the stuff on mogstation instead of ingame. I do however sub again when I have 1 day left on house demolisher though ...
Still hoping for that one day XIV becomes good again.. maybe next expansion...

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Originally Posted by Fhaerron

Oh I didn't knew. All of them do?

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The only Savage tier that hasn't dropped a mount (barring Coil) was Midas, which dropped a Faustlet minion.

Gordias - Gobwalker
Creator - Arrhidaeus (or however you spell it)
Deltascape - Alte Rolte
Sigmascape - Air Force

Encyclopedia Eorzea Part II announced. It's gonna come with Matoya's Hat. Like other recent DLC items, it's gonna be one character per account again. Come on, SE.

Why pay standard subscription to be able to make 40 alts when MogStation items/DLC items with physical goods are becoming 1 item per character? Although this is great for business, this is very bad at building trust and relationships with paying customers. Come on SE, you can do better!

I get tired of this company always coming up with excuses not to do stuff- the price they charge per outfit is ridiculous. This is considering we buy the game, pay a sub, and buy expansions.

The outfits I could deal with, the minions...yeah that's fine, but the emotes being for only one character is what really made me realize how money hungry they are. Maybe I'm spoiled by other games making cash shop purchases account wide, but if they are determined to charge this much give it to every character on the account.

And the dlc/physical product items and stuff being for one character only needs to stop as well.

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Originally Posted by TheGrimace

Encyclopedia Eorzea Part II announced. It's gonna come with Matoya's Hat. Like other recent DLC items, it's gonna be one character per account again. Come on, SE.

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ridiculous, especially with how hard it is to get a copy of EE. i'm sick of the excuses. it makes no sense for physical items. I'm not going to buy two copies of EE to get the hat on both characters.

SE only acknowledges there is an issue. YoshiP seems to hate getting the question during LL aswell.

Maybe we should reword the question next time.

How will you fix your broken game to allow all items from the cash shop and physical items to be account wide?

I want to tell myself that question won't come up until they have an acceptable answer to it, but we all know it will come up, and we'll be told that there are several ways to fix it, they maybe even considered it, but time/resources/priorities/server hamsters.

It's something that needs to be brought up time and again until there is a solution. If they don't realize it's an issue, we have to make them understand it is. That's the only way we will see change.

And again, it's not that they can't find a way around the keys. They just have no interest in finding a way around it at present. They've found solutions around inventory management, glamour space, job issues, and tons of other problems in the game. The difference here is that real money is involved and that the pressure hasn't been added yet. Keep the pressure up and we are more likely to see actual responses.

The "keys" excuse is another one of those answers that I can't even take seriously.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

The "keys" excuse is another one of those answers that I can't even take seriously.

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Yeah I agree.

There are definitely ways to get around that problem likely...some in this thread have even made suggestions.

I know we don't know how all their internal systems work, but I am sure SOME kind of work around could be created. That is the lovely thing about computers and coding that there is usually some way to do something even if it is a bit roundabout.

Yoshi... you know its a bad system, might as well fix it.

This is the only reason I don't buy more cash shop items.

The Yotsuyu code from the Stormblood art book also wasn't account wide, for some bizarre reason considering all of the previous item codes (that I know of) were account wide.

petition to SE - make an option account wide and non account wide

I would love that too (especialy with items that come from outiside like the books, I will still buy the books that I like but...)

And I stopped buying from mogstation lot of things because it is not account wide

Hien's gear added to the mogstation. Like Lyse's, it's not account-wide and it's only for one gender.

Also a bunch of summerfest stuff from previous years- again, overpriced and per character.

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Originally Posted by TheGrimace

Also a bunch of summerfest stuff from previous years- again, overpriced and per character.

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To be fair, the Faire outfit set being $5 is in line with most other previous event sets, save for the 1.0 swimsuits and yukatas; I can forgive a three-piece set being $5. The shaved ice housing item is a price gouge though — should at least be a set of 5 or 10 if they’re gonna charge $5.

/sign for account wide option.

The lack of this feature is the reason I don't buy mogstation outfits anymore. It's bad enough that we're not even allowed to buy individual pieces but no account wide? Nty.

i'd definitely be more willing to buy mogstation outfits if they were account-bound / i could receive on more than one character ♥
i mean for that price, seriously...

i'm also very frustrated about seasonal outfits i've gotten on my main but cannot use on alts :<
alts need the glamour too!!

This bump is actually really relevant given how not only the new mount, but all three minions are account wide...

With the advent of the 2018/2019 Fan Festival Season, SE has released Tifa minions and the SDS Fenrir mount. Once the European and Japanese Fan Fests end, we will also see Cloud and Aerith added as minions to the game. The positive thing about these additions is that they are all account-wide. This is the first time minions sold on the Mog Station have been sold account-wide, and as a result, they are $2 USD more than other minions.

As of Christmas 2018, SE has released another new set of eastern emotes and glamours and, once again, they are single character only. One step forward, two steps back.

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Originally Posted by TheGrimace

As of Christmas 2018, SE has released another new set of eastern emotes and glamours and, once again, they are single character only. One step forward, two steps back.

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To be fair they weren't made for us to begin with, they were intended for the Chinese/Korean market who also have to buy them individually for each character they want them for. They won't make those items account wide for us but then expect the special markets to pay seperately, just no.

I have been given a lot of items as gifts from the store over the years I have been playing and even some I have got myself from the shop, I really dislike the fact that most are not account wide.
I was given the new encyclopedia for xmas and yet again the hat is not account wide....really disheartening :(

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Originally Posted by Luluna

I was given the new encyclopedia for xmas and yet again the hat is not account wide....really disheartening :(

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Especially because the minion that came with Vol. 1 was account wide :(

ahh yeh I have the first one also I forgot that was account wide...wonder why they changed it :(

The excuse they have given in the past is that they have limited quantities of keys they can use for account-wide purposes, so they have needed to ration out which items can be account-wide over the past two years since Stormblood was released.

I don't really care for that excuse and I think it's a poor attempt to get them out of developing smarter ways to adjust the Mog Station structure. The Mog Station takes in enough money that it should warrant the importance of development time when its usefulness begins to slack. If they want to use the Mog Station as a source of income, they should put forth the effort to make its services reliable.

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In-game Bonus Item Codes

Recently, players have noticed that the in-game bonus codes included with FFXIV-related merchandise have been character-specific rather than being account-wide. The reason is because there is a limit to the number of items that can be distributed service account wide, and it is currently difficult to increase this limit. We’ll continue looking into this moving forward, and will provide an update once we have progress.

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This was posted in a Live Letter Digest from January 28 of 2018, and unfortunately we have still not received anymore word on their progress on the matter. I would recommend that someone with access to Yoshida and/or the development team bring this up with them when possible to see if any progress has been made.

I am sure SE will fix with friendly price of 40$ for friendly wide account!

still upsetti about all my seasonal rewards not being account-wide. one of the huge reasons this game isn't alt-friendly is specifically bc of this.

i would love for the armoire and glamour dresser to be accessible account-wide at the very least? we need more space for the dresser that way, of course, but it would be a huuuuuge quality of life improvement for alts. please, square!

IMO anything that isn't a bulk comsumable like fantasias and dyes should be account wide. But that's just my preferences.