Possible ban?

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Originally Posted by Gemma

Wow for someone who claims they don't care about this you sure are stalking your thread a lot so you can reply with snarky remarks.
Good luck finding people who aren't going to see through your fake smilies ^_^b

Also I think it's funny out of everything I posted you responded to the asking you to not come to my server & not about the scamming people. Nothing to say about any of the other things? yeeeaaah thought so..

<---Is glad her FC is not recruiting....

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Taking things and scamming are two different things.

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Originally Posted by Zigabar

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Oh there it goes, Ziga you gonna get banned...Political bant, having feelings, CANNOT RESIST TOS TAKE IT DOWN AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH~!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Idolatrous

Um, no. We're talking about company credits, something very small.

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I don't think you fully understand how little each thing you do contributes to the pool. It would take around 208 at-level dungeons just to contribute enough points personally for ONE portrait if that's all you were doing (provided the 60-ish points per that I found is still relevant). The leveling roulette I did just now didn't even provide points. That huge number of points you're seeing is from a combined contribution from a large group of people.

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Originally Posted by PandAlt

Oh there it goes, Ziga you gonna get banned...Political bant, having feelings, CANNOT RESIST TOS TAKE IT DOWN AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH~!!!!!!!

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Would be worth it, but then what would I do at work? Edited ;)

Hmmm, this was an entertaining thread.

Hopefully people who read this will reconsider the ranking privileges they have set up (if they actually care about their stuff). If something like this happened in my FC I'd blame myself for it first and fully, though that's partially because I don't really trust anyone to be faithful. My FC officers have full access to the credits, house and chest (and whenever we're interested in airships, those too) because I pretty much wanted them to be the "owners" of it; if I didn't want that, I would definitely restrict it.

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Originally Posted by Kathyz

Someone know a good cookie recipe? Im hungry and i only have oreos in the house, iFrickin hate oreos xD

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Oatmeal apple butter cookies

350 deg

1/2 cup sugar
1 stick butter
Beat

1 egg
2 tsp vanilla
Add, mix

1/4 tsp baking soda
Add, mix

3/4 cup flour
Add, mix

2 tbsp apple butter
Add, mix

1.5 cup oats
Add, mix

Bake 25 min

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Originally Posted by aesteval

Oatmeal apple butter cookies

350 deg

1/2 cup sugar
1 stick butter
Beat

1 egg
2 tsp vanilla
Add, mix

1/4 tsp baking soda
Add, mix

3/4 cup flour
Add, mix

2 tbsp apple butter
Add, mix

1.5 cup oats
Add, mix

Bake 25 min

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Those sound delicious! Now to wait until fall so I can get some fresh apple butter :(

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Originally Posted by Idolatrous

Um, no. We're talking about company credits, something very small.

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What you perceive as something small might not be to others. I don't think it is more on how minimal the item cost but rather the actions you did. I think you should have been apologetic and at least make it up to them.

It's cheap on the market board right, if you have every intention to make up for it you could've bought it and returned to them. While something so trivial might not warrant a ban, you just made yourself known within that FC.. which begs the question, for an item you claim to have little value, was it really the price you pay to have your reputation tarnished?

Yes they are very childish to press matters, but you're not very mature either. I would be annoyed if someone walks into my company, gets all the business contacts/data and leaves.

The reason why I can see understand that you are experiencing right now is because you seem to care more about getting ban rather than to make up for what has happened. You can more about yourself than anything else really.

Frankly the people in this forum are intelligent and logical(at least anything off content or relic/yokai grinds), the fact that 9/10 people think what you did was wrong you need to reassess things lol.

The way I see it if you are so easily tempted by a trivial item, I can only imagine what you'd do for something much more valuable.

Hope the next FC to take you in is more cautious with how many privileges they allow you.

probably won't get banned but you sound like a grade A turd.

Ugh, this is hard. While yeah he shouldn't have just up and left after spending those credits like that, I still place more stares at the FC for not having the correct settings in place. Look I'm not agreeing with OP but you can't expect everyone around you to uphold the same standards. It never works that way, ALWAYS do things to project yourself and your works.. NEVER just guess people will respect your stuff cause you are you. Not everyone is here to be your friend, there are horrible people in the world and it doesn't matter what drives them. They will do their dirt on you or on someone else. What you have to do is NEVER just blinding trust people will do the right thing. Again not siding with anyone here, but you can't get mad at the lion eating your deer when you didn't keep the lion in the cage away from said deer.

Yeah it's quite questionable, but there are groups who believe in equality among all players. Meaning everyone has close to equal rights except expulsion. But yeah don't think it is a very wise move, just takes maybe 8 bahamut statues to wipe the credits clean.

Hope you get ran off the server and the next server you transfer too

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Originally Posted by Cakekizyy

That's name shaming and reportable.

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Originally Posted by Celef

Not sure about the FC not being ban for announcing it, or at least the player doing it, SE does not like public denunciation, even if it's deserved :/ (which is, in some cases, such a shame cause some people would deserve to be named regarding some attitude we can see in PF....)

You probably won't be banned but, by doing it and tralking about it on the forum, it might be hard for you to find a new FC cause people might see you as a thief and bad reputation tend to stick on people ^^"

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Depends. If said FC announced it in PF or typed up something like "this <insert cursing here> thief..." etc, then yes, they might get into trouble. If they simply warned future FCs this person joins, they wouldn't. I've also heard GMs will step in if people have an agreement in chat and one tries to run off with free gill/items.

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Originally Posted by Kathyz

Someone know a good cookie recipe? Im hungry and i only have oreos in the house, iFrickin hate oreos xD

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:eek:

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I'm just curious as to Where exactly were they going to use the portraits? Do they already own a house?
Yes what they did was wrong etc but why did they do it and more to the point why then did they decide a confessional post was a good idea?
Troll or not their rep with this character is in tatters right now.

http://i.imgur.com/j0Wq1s7.jpg

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Originally Posted by Eul

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You have to admit this is some dam good bait.

You must be a joy at house parties.

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Originally Posted by Colino

You must be a joy at house parties.

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Lol pretty good analogy to be honest. "All the food on the table was there, so I thought I could have it." "It was there cause it was meant for everyone, not just you. It is a party after all."

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Originally Posted by Eul

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Originally Posted by Vanitas

You have to admit this is some dam good bait.

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And a funny one :3

This seems too stupid to be for real but what a mindset lol

"the guy let me into his house, that makes it his fault i stole his money and furniture"

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Originally Posted by PandAlt

What about peanut butter? PB Cookies are easy...PB AND SUGAR and maybe an egg...idk look up easy cookie recipe and google will spit out like 3-4 ingredient ones!

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I never make cookies, always eat the doughh.

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Originally Posted by Eul

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I see hooks, not bait.

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Originally Posted by Cakekizyy

I see hooks, not bait.

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Which goes to show that bad parenting makes for easy catching, now see if they just saw hooks with no bait they would have known better.

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Originally Posted by cammi

Ugh, this is hard. While yeah he shouldn't have just up and left after spending those credits like that, I still place more stares at the FC for not having the correct settings in place. Look I'm not agreeing with OP but you can't expect everyone around you to uphold the same standards. It never works that way, ALWAYS do things to project yourself and your works.. NEVER just guess people will respect your stuff cause you are you. Not everyone is here to be your friend, there are horrible people in the world and it doesn't matter what drives them. They will do their dirt on you or on someone else. What you have to do is NEVER just blinding trust people will do the right thing. Again not siding with anyone here, but you can't get mad at the lion eating your deer when you didn't keep the lion in the cage away from said deer.

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The thing is, it's not even a matter of trust. The fc setting are not some trust-test or intention-test that lets you see who wants to take things out the bank. They are there to tell others "go ahead and help yourselves even during the times I'm not there to hand it to you". They are a formal permission to take gil, items or company credits for any use without asking a second permission. It is not uncommon to have one tab set open to everyone full of cheap minions, Krakka Roots or cheap food to be freely used by newcomers as kind of a welcome gift.

What I don't understand is if people want newcomers to contribute a certain amount of credits before using them, why give them a silent message that they can use them straight away? If people don't want items taken from the bank for personal use, why give a silent message that it's allowed? It's a form of miscommunication. Those permissions, while restricting people, also convey a message. Fc leaders expect people to read their minds and double-check about the bank and credits and publicly crucify anyone who fails to do so, when the leader had every tool available to inform people properly and yet chose to misuse those tools. They are not "victims" of thievery when someone takes a couple of items. They are not "robbed" when a minuscule amount of credits is used for personal use. They tell people that items/currency can be taken from the bank and then withdraw that permission in a whim, blaming the person who believed them.

Why on earth would you tell people that they can take things at their own accord if you want them to ask permission each time? Just... tick the damn box so they know they are not allowed to take things by themselves and have to ask permission. If you invite people for a party and they happen to eat from the table you set up for guests, you can't blame them for robbery when they don't ask permission for every crisp and popcorn. If they empty the crisp and popcorn bowls into their bag, stuff their pockets full of beer cans and pile all the pizza on their arms before scooting out the door, that's a bit of a different story. But that's not what the OP did.

A situation where a long standing member of the fc clears the bank clean of everything before they hop servers is very different and I don't condone it. The whole bank is emptied in a malicious way, which is different from taking only what you need/like from the bank for personal use or spending a small amount of credits on something nice (whilst leaving enough for buffs+airships and other people's personal use). SE could prevent fc bank clearing by allowing the fc leaders to set quantity limits on top of the existing limits (daily limit of item stacks per tab, daily gil limit and daily credit limit). This would also further allow communication about what is deemed acceptable in that specific fc, because believe it or not free companies have different ideas about the correct etiquette of taking things from the bank.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

It is not uncommon to have one tab set open to everyone full of cheap minions, Krakka Roots or cheap food to be freely used by newcomers as kind of a welcome gift.

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Welcome gifts are great to newcomers and all, but I don't think welcome gifts are meant to be grabbed on the way out the door permanently. I think that's the main issue people are having with this - the grab and dash vs what is considered common courtesy.

That is not the point at all..
Would it kill people to take the time and ask if it's cool to take ___ item. Sure if permissions were set this prob would not happen, still not the real point.
The OP took the item that day knowing they were leaving the FC, it's not even about how much the item was worth.

I used to have my crystals in my FC chest open to everyone so they could craft but then one person decided to take all of them and leave the FC. We had over 5k of all types of crystals in there. So after that I had to lock the chest and now if anyone wants to use the crystals they have to ask first and hope someone isn't too busy to come get them out for them. This is a case of one asshole ruining it for everyone else. That person wasn't banned and you probably won't be either but you are scum and it's such a shame there are no ramifications for your actions because it's just going to make people like you think it's ok to do it.

Oh boy, I wish I could upload pics but I'm on ps4. Anyway, there's already a disgruntled Fc leader calling you out for what you did on pf.were those portraits really worth it?

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Originally Posted by Venoshock

Oh boy, I wish I could upload pics but I'm on ps4. Anyway, there's already a disgruntled Fc leader calling you out for what you did on pf.were those portraits really worth it?

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Attention seeker is getting attention. What more could they ask for?

Also, name shaming is against ToS, so that person may want to stop their PF, assuming they haven't already been reported.

@zigabar

I am not so sure that someone that shames on pf to warn community about a possible trouble will be reported. It should but people have a very particular vision of rules you know unfortunately

This is still going on? Can someone lock this thread?

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Originally Posted by Idolatrous

This is still going on? Can someone lock this thread?

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/popcorn
crunch crunch

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Originally Posted by Idolatrous

So, I was in a FC and I used their company credits to buy the portraits and I left. I know that's bad move but I honestly just wanted to see what they looked like in portrait form. Today, one of the members whispered me and said that they will have me banned/reported because of me "robbing" them. My theory is that the FC leader is at fault for not regulating what certain ranks can do in the FC. I was the lowest rank and I could add/move furniture and all that good stuff. I have been in many other FC that would only let the low ranks just feed the chocobos or tend to the plants.

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Considering you did this and show no remorse, you probably won't get many FC offers for places to hang out... As for being banned, he could prob get you a temp ban if he tries hard enough.

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

@zigabar

I am not so sure that someone that shames on pf to warn community about a possible trouble will be reported. It should but people have a very particular vision of rules you know unfortunately

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You haven't met the really Toxic Players then, and I don't mean the ones that say "Your DPS Sucks" or "You're the worst HLR", I mean the ones that do Actions instead of writing.
Give them a Chance and they take it and backstab you pretty fast. Some People just want to watch the World burn for unknown reasons.

This still falls under the Catigory "Name Shaming", trust me, Square Enix does take their own Rules way too hard. Any Attempt to make the "Thief" public is also worth a Punishment.

Want to know something else? This Discussion falls under "Taking or discussing criminal actions." That's ya.. what to say, the thing that's going on in here xD

You are a weird one.

Members of an FC are allowed to take the items (or in this case credits) that are offered to them for that purpose. Taking stuff that's been offered that way could only be regarded as stealing in the most extreme of cases (generally involving wiping out everything you can get and leaving nothing for anyone else, which if it was accurately described isn't the case here). Simply taking a picture from your FCs credits that's designed to be gotten by using your FCs credits certainly falls under allowable use.