Of course they aren't they will just be like any other NM drop used to display an epeen in Ul'dah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keftenk
Bowl of Embers (Hyper) THANK YOU SE
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10-08-2011, 11:18 AMJinko
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10-08-2011, 11:27 AMKeftenk
Heh, probably ;\
Still, pretty amazing fight, such a refreshing thing to see come out of SE. It's a little sad though that no "regular player" is going to experience this fully. Its not super duper hard, but it's pretty tough. I'm sure though, after sometime when people are completely decked out in gear + materia it'll become that much easier. Though, they don't make a materia that makes your situational awareness increase, so....iunno -
10-08-2011, 01:22 PMRichardd
They are going to nerf this fight for sure soon, because like Keftenk said: no "regular" players will ever be able to accomplish it at it's current stage. In the very very very very low off chance that we don't manage to get that last 5~10% down before that happens we will all personally take embarrassing nude photos for the community.
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10-08-2011, 01:42 PMRoyal
I have a question richardd. I just did the rank 50 quest where you have to kill the NM to get the inferno lamp. Do i have to kill the NM before each attempt on level 50 ifrit?
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10-08-2011, 02:04 PMZdenkaQuote:
Originally Posted by Royal
It doesn't and you don't even need an inferno lamp aside from your first kill. I think patch notes says if you kill w.o lamp you just can't loot chest.
Unless his regen is insane in P4 (we don't live long enough to see really) the fight is beatable in its current state with pretty much a flawless execution.
P4 only increases the "area" of his skills, theres still room to be safe. P4 is just like P3 but with less room to manuever and you still need steady consistent DPS on ifrit to push him through regen to death.
If they ever nerf Ifrit in any manner, I hope its only that they remove his Regen and keep the rest of the fight the same. -
10-08-2011, 03:18 PMRicharddthe regen slows when you hit P3~P4. Also note that in P4 Eruption is larger/faster and it pops twice underneath 2 separate people. Plumes is larger but just as easy to avoid if you are within sear range of ifrit.Quote:
P4 only increases the "area" of his skills, theres still room to be safe. P4 is just like P3 but with less room to manuever and you still need steady consistent DPS on ifrit to push him through regen to death.
And yes the fight is definitely beatable in it's current state (obv) as we've been @ 5~10% numerous times. The execution has to be nothing but flawless indeed. -
10-08-2011, 03:36 PMUllrHellfire
I came across this.. video? http://tinyurl.com/IfritdownedBG?
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10-08-2011, 04:07 PMRichardd404 not found. and based on the url title, not true as we've only taken it to 5%Quote:
Originally Posted by UllrHellfire
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10-08-2011, 04:12 PMUllrHellfire
It was Sexy Sax man? I'm guessing he rolls with yall?
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10-08-2011, 04:15 PMCorrderioDoubtful. Yoshida said that his idea for endgame was to make the new content where only hardcores can beat it, then when the next patch hits nerf said content for regular/casuals, then replace that with another hard fight.Quote:
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Either way, have you guys noticed a difference using Fire Resist Materia? Debating if I should use that for survival or just go nuts on offensive materia where I can put it. -
10-08-2011, 04:35 PMRicharddFire Veil is extremely low chance it seems from gear as we tried to SBPT a lot of it early on. We don't use it but we know the exact mitigation elemental resist gives. Sear damage is best mitigated in other ways though :3Quote:
Either way, have you guys noticed a difference using Fire Resist Materia? Debating if I should use that for survival or just go nuts on offensive materia where I can put it.
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10-08-2011, 06:01 PMRichardd
Congrats to Scorpion from Gyshal on world first!
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...entry?e=252571
it's a little disheartening that we probably could have had it last night if we kept going :( -
10-08-2011, 06:54 PMRika
JP BUTTON ... :D gj for sure
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10-08-2011, 07:17 PMAnonymoose
Have you guys tried using the company issued tonics and ethers at all? At first, SE made it seem like they'd be extremely helpful in Company Missions, but I think most of us forgot about it pretty quickly when we could kill the Darkhold with our own strength.
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10-08-2011, 07:39 PMRicharddThe Ethers give 150MP I think but MP has not been an issue for us post Phase 4 for 2 days now. We keep getting gibbed due to other reasons. No idea about the Tonics but getting locked in animations even for a split second = death in Phase 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymoose
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10-08-2011, 07:41 PMBetelgeuzah
Yeah, I am optimistic that animation lock will be phased away soon. Action rehaul could be "it".
If they make the fights require constant mobility the locking going to hinder the game too much in the long run. -
10-08-2011, 07:43 PMRicharddI would really hope so because it truly is just so damned annoying haha but idk Squenix never fixed it in XI so I wont hold my breath lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah
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10-08-2011, 07:50 PMBetelgeuzah
Well, they didn't rehaul the combat, UI, servers, areas, economy, nor did they add jumping in that game either...
I'm only optimistic because they've changed the engaging and a-a animations though. So they can do it. -
10-08-2011, 08:01 PMzaviermhigo
Digging new dmg, it seems like the tear of most damaging moves now is shadowseer> mrd final ws> lncs (not sure what moves for lnc and arc)> arc. I could be wrong of course. But mrd's last weapon skill, and all its aoe ws are good for keeping chains now.
Its nice to see people shouting for lnc, lets now hope its not like lets fill this party up with lncs, then we're back to square one. -
10-08-2011, 08:39 PMKeftenk
You know whats equally as nice? Seeing AM's do 500 dmg to Ifrit luls.
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10-09-2011, 01:14 AMCorrderioAnd keeping the camera from going back to a fixed position. Makes it annoying to dodge eruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah
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10-09-2011, 01:16 AMRichardd
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10-09-2011, 04:04 AMKeftenk
I want this parser so I can rage more at my raiding team about how important some skills are over others.
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10-09-2011, 05:10 AMNightpanda2810Yes please! looks much better than the one I foundQuote:
Originally Posted by Keftenk
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10-09-2011, 05:37 AMKeftenk
Why no share?
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10-09-2011, 08:08 AMZdenkaDrops only from belts? The trend we've noticed is that Materia "loot pool" from spiritbinding seems to be that if it can be equipped on the piece you can get it, if its not, you don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richardd
Example: Swordsman STR/DEX is Legs only, and the only thing we've gotten it to form off of is pants.
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10-09-2011, 08:18 AMRichardddrops from a body piece afaik. that much has been confirmed. a specific material for the piece is no longer in the game so it's hard to get a lot of it made to try and spiritbond.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zdenka
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10-09-2011, 01:57 PMRichardd
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10-10-2011, 01:01 AMRichardd
attempts start @ 3PM EST. He dies today.
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10-10-2011, 05:34 AMPenguin
It died update soon :p
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10-10-2011, 06:12 AMAistaraina
Congrats BG.