More gender locked clothing

Square hasn't delivered very good runs for most of the races I care to think about. I don't see how it relates to wearing female dresses, but if some people want to dress their characters as females, I'm not hugely bothered. Just saying that midlander facial features, for 4/6 faces, are quite clearly suited to their gender.

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Originally Posted by Fyce

You guys not only let your chance of being an awesome Highlander slip away, but you also show us that you cannot recognize a joke when you see one.

I'm sad, it was a good one.

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I'm sure I'll survive, somehow.

Nevermind. No discussion.

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Originally Posted by Mhikail

Well I didn't mean to offend it was just a thought. Relax. It's not unknown especially here in Balmung.
Plenty of Futa's rpers, traps and other stuff. I don't judge I let people do what they want.

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A what now? oO

Traps as in the kind that lure bears in?

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Originally Posted by Mhikail

Well I didn't mean to offend it was just a thought. Relax. It's not unknown especially here in Balmung.
Plenty of Futa's rpers, traps and other stuff. I don't judge I let people do what they want.

Semi Off-topic: Also, didn't you basically say to the Roe in the other topic
"I don't like your skin colour."
Dude was a brown/black guy. That was kind of rude too.
Can say a lot of things off that...
So...

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Basically it is stereotyping. :3
An I just used several character design choices he made as example (yes skin colour too but also everything else like hair make up etc. for i am not allowed to judge about how his character should have to like like the same way he is not allowed to judge how other ppls chars have to look like. That's all.
Picking exactly the skin colour out to make me look like a racists says more than enough about you need poor tricks to make my opionion seem less valuable.
<.<

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Originally Posted by Whitemare

Basically it is stereotyping. :3
An I just used several character design choices he made as example (yes skin colour too but also everything else like hair make up etc. for i am not allowed to judge about how his character should have to like like the same way he is not allowed to judge how other ppls chars have to look like. That's all.
Picking exactly the skin colour out to make me look like a racists says more than enough about you need poor tricks to make my opionion seem less valuable.
<.<

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Sorry, my character is chocolate and that kind of offended me a little. [Not this character since it is my sisters.]
[I agree his face paint scared the hell out of me as did his hair or lackthereof...hair lol.]
again I apologize and didin't mean to group people as a whole.
You may continue to run me down on it because everyone of this forum likes to push the living hell out of people
right after they apologize.

I think I'm just going to become a mooglesexual.

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Originally Posted by Totobi

The horse is dead leave it alone ;<

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no because it's not just gender lock gear its also poses I want the female dark knight pose.

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Originally Posted by Dererk

no because it's not just gender lock gear its also poses I want the female dark knight pose.

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Tbh I don't know why they put male and female /cpose, none of them are particularly manly of feminine. Female should be able to have the cool Kaïn pose too.

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Originally Posted by lololink

Tbh I don't know why they put male and female /cpose, none of them are particularly manly of feminine. Female should be able to have the cool Kaïn pose too.

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I know right in fact that same topic came up months ago that females wanted the male pose but guys also wanted the female pose for dragoon.

Nah I am fine with gender locked clothing.

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Originally Posted by Shhikasan

Nah I am fine with gender locked clothing.

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Which would be fine, if male characters actually got equal treatment with gender exclusive clothing.

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Originally Posted by SakuraMidori

In real life most guys don't wear or have more outfits then girls that and girls can wear guys outfits a hell of a lot easy and still make it work. My guess SE sees this and go by this {yes SE will base some stuff off real life}

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Then my inner gender is Female. I really like having a great diversity in my Clothing. I have 3 Lockers full of Clothes. Big lockers...

And i have really a Problem finding new Clothing because the Male Section is mostly the same.Same Cut or same Colour everywhere. Then i walk around see something nice and realize i'm in the female Section of the Shop. Its a) embarassing as hell and b) really sad that the industry thinks "male all wear the same stuff anyway"

It does get annoying. I would like SE to add a Zoot suit in or a penguin suit. Hell, even a regular suit and tie will work for me. Yes, I am aware of the spotted one. I want more male glamour though.

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Originally Posted by Shhikasan

Nah I am fine with gender locked clothing.

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We're all fine with gender-locked clothing! Just not when clothing is only gender-locked for males but freely available for females.

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Originally Posted by Heskett

Now let's be honest here, is this a real fundamental issue or SJWs at their worst?

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I dunno, plenty of male PCs have voiced their support, look at Nozomi's thread. There's plenty of people who want this change.

By the was "SJW" is a strawman term used by social reactionaries, it doesn't really mean anything.

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Originally Posted by Mhikail

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Not to get on your case or anything, but can you avoid bringing up sexual tropes that fetishize trans people?

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Originally Posted by No2631

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Yeah, which is why making all gear unisex is the best solution to be honest, it saves the devs time and satisfies a good bit of people. Like, I don't know if I'm fine with more gender-locked clothing, because honestly what's the difference and could a man not wear that sort of clothing/could a woman not wear that sort of clothing? How are you going to make a "Manly-only-for-men version" of the best man's suit too?
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Anyways, again, social conformity with regards to what men wear isn't SE's problem. They just have harder time going from female -> unisex due to model variances, so they decide not to do it.

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Originally Posted by Hypie

Then my inner gender is Female. I really like having a great diversity in my Clothing. I have 3 Lockers full of Clothes. Big lockers...

And i have really a Problem finding new Clothing because the Male Section is mostly the same.Same Cut or same Colour everywhere. Then i walk around see something nice and realize i'm in the female Section of the Shop. Its a) embarassing as hell and b) really sad that the industry thinks "male all wear the same stuff anyway"

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:O Did you just do a 180-degree turn? Going from "no, this is not how things work, and we shouldn't make female attire unisex because men shouldn't wear it" to "I like the aesthetic of women's clothing (at least some of it) and would love to wear it but society tells me no"?
I have to admit; I did not expect that post from you based on other posts I've read in this and the other one with Nozomi's art =D

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They just have harder time going from female -> unisex due to model variances, so they decide not to do it.

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Isn't that exactly why it's easier to just make everything male -> unisex, since that's apparently so easy they do it for all "male" versions of gear?

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Originally Posted by Core1019

Stop being so selfish on something that is obviously unfair

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The fair comes once a year.

I pay a sub fee and I don't want my money used for that type of content.

You pay also, the difference is I am okay with what they have no and I am not asking them to change anything.

You are trying to force this upon people who don't want to see it not just me others.

Just like you forced that picture on me, I really could care less about the way you dress up like a barbie doll, I hope SE doesn't change the way this game is because I don't really want to play SIMS.

Please more pictures of breezy outfits.
They make me happy.

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I don't really want to play SIMS.

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All the female characters already are playing Sims, and you don't need to join in on the glamourworks! :D

I get all the opposition, I really do! But the strongest argument the naysayers bring forth is, "I don't want to make use of it and I do not want to see others make use of it", which is like stomping your feet, "I don't want this, so you can't have it either!"

Where's the harm in others using something you have absolutely no interest in using? "It offends my eyes/sensibilities/credo!" is not a very strong argument: you can just look the other way, and it shouldn't harm your immersion any more than the dozens of Miqo'te running around in underwear. If it's OK for people to play females and make them look as sexy as possible for uh, reasons you can share with a six-year-old, then surely it's fine if people do the same for their male character.

Uhh...I don't like where this thread is going to be honest, SE might end up making all female locked clothes to unisex and we will start seeing bulky guys wear spring dresses. But well in a way it solves your gender locked clothing problems.

Edit: On a second thought, yes! I want to start seeing cross dressers running around!

Oh no...
http://i.imgur.com/yN0hMP6.jpg
Whatever shall we do...
http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...bc9d2c2859.png

Yeah I see your edit but still. Dudes in dresses is already a thing!

Also spoiler

https://riikorinkoko.files.wordpress...dibrand-11.jpg
The only thing I see wrong with his get-up is his horrid makeup job.

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Originally Posted by Buff_Archer

As of now, I am to protest this. Until we have equality in clothing options, I will henceforth wear nothing but a pair of boots.

http://i.imgur.com/ZzbtkY3.jpg

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WHAT ARE THE NAME OF THOSE PANTS? LOOOL?

I don't know if it is a visual trick or what that is.

I NEED THOSE PANTS.

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Originally Posted by SovereignAegis

WHAT ARE THE NAME OF THOSE PANTS? LOOOL?

I don't know if it is a visual trick or what that is.

I NEED THOSE PANTS.

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I believe they are darklight breeches dyed pastel pink.

Those are darklight caster pants dyed to match his skin tone! The black and red pattern doesn't change so you can get some cool looks with them. ^_^

Hey hey, girls also like to dress their character with skimpy outfits too, because, why not?
I actually would like more heels in this game for girls.

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Originally Posted by No2631

Isn't that exactly why it's easier to just make everything male -> unisex, since that's apparently so easy they do it for all "male" versions of gear?

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Mhm, going from the male to unisex whenever making new gear should be the way SE approaches it, it solves the "Stop giving the girl's more outfits" and also solves the "It's hard going from girl to unisex" problem.

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Originally Posted by Roda

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Holy crap, that first Roe is so aesthetically pleasing, I love how all of their outfit matches.

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Originally Posted by Noxifer

:O Did you just do a 180-degree turn? Going from "no, this is not how things work, and we shouldn't make female attire unisex because men shouldn't wear it" to "I like the aesthetic of women's clothing (at least some of it) and would love to wear it but society tells me no"?
I have to admit; I did not expect that post from you based on other posts I've read in this and the other one with Nozomi's art =D

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Not really haha^^ Its more like that:

I go into 4 different Cloth Shops Men Wear. All i see is marine Blue same style-cut Shirts. And then i just look over to the Female Side and see Blue, Green, Yellow, Red Shirts with wide Style-Cut, Body toned Style Cut etc.

That's what i mean. Yes this is a bit over dramatic but i chose it for easy understanding.

I'm still against Males wearing risky female Outfits because the Style these Outfits have compliment the wrong Places on the Male Body. If you mean a complete redo so that it matches and compliments the Male body with Unisex im all for it.

But no Fem Skirts and Stuff for Men. What many here forget is that other Players have to endure your look. Sometimes when I see a Female Character dressed like a Slut/Whore i have to surpress that Urge to walk her up and Shout "HEY. How much do you charge per Stunt?!".

I think a long coat in a similar style to the Spring dress would be nice. (using the same trim and decorations style just make it in a more masculine fashion.) I've been doodling ideas along this front. For the Bridesmaids dress, I was thinking something along the lines of a Flamenco shirt (because it's a flowy, ruffled style for men)

http://ep.yimg.com/ay/riversedge/men...bt-9115-12.gif http://www.sewletsdance.com/images/f...silk_shirt.jpg

Now I'm not saying its wrong there are some good points and hopefully they will work on more unisex options in the future. It took like two years for them to even consider an egi glamour system for summoner.

I am pretty sure re working all the current outfits at the moment isn't an especially big priority at the moment. They have so much other content to get done and art to do for 3.1 alone. I'd rather they work on making future glamour and gear options more unisex friendly. Then waste dev time to go back and changed the countless others. That's just my two cents ^^

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Originally Posted by Samcaesar

Not to get on your case or anything, but can you avoid bringing up sexual tropes that fetishize trans people?

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If you looked at the posts after I tried to, and said sorry about it.
You guys wanna pick fights off every thing.
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Edit: So people can seriously stop going back about I edited that post out.
You still can see it on other peoples posts but whatever.
Not worth getting harassed and possible reported on lol.

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Originally Posted by Terrini

I think a long coat in a similar style to the Spring dress would be nice. (using the same trim and decorations style just make it in a more masculine fashion.) I've been doodling ideas along this front. For the Bridesmaids dress, I was thinking something along the lines of a Flamenco shirt (because it's a flowy, ruffled style for men)

http://ep.yimg.com/ay/riversedge/men...bt-9115-12.gif http://www.sewletsdance.com/images/f...silk_shirt.jpg

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I agree we need more Spanish styled outfits! The ones that fit your body tone all the way down to legs.
We currently have enough Japanese and Arabic outfits for now.

And also, more heels, please.

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Originally Posted by Mhikail

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Thank you, sorry for getting on your case about it.

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Originally Posted by SovereignAegis

WHAT ARE THE NAME OF THOSE PANTS? LOOOL?

I don't know if it is a visual trick or what that is.

I NEED THOSE PANTS.

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The post below yours was very close, they are the Darklight Breeches of Casting and luckily for me Salmon Pink happened to match my skin almost exactly. I've been trying to get these on my Highlander alt for a little while now, harder now that it's a dungeon drop. The Healer pants from the set dye and wear nicely- I have them in gold- but they don't give the leather chaps kind of look but perhaps someone with a way different ski tone would have options that work with one of the dyes.

These have been turning heads (for better or worse) since the day they became dyable. It's funny how many people are running past me and just stop and I see them rotate trying to tell what's going on without being obvious and targeting me.

http://i.imgur.com/7vSuYUP.jpg

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Originally Posted by Hypie

Sometimes when I see a Female Character dressed like a Slut/Whore i have to surpress that Urge to walk her up and Shout "HEY. How much do you charge per Stunt?!".

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o.O

You must be a delight irl.

All hail the butt_archer.

I'm definitely a butt archer fan.

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Originally Posted by Buff_Archer

The post below yours was very close, they are the Darklight Breeches of Casting and luckily for me Salmon Pink happened to match my skin almost exactly. I've been trying to get these on my Highlander alt for a little while now, harder now that it's a dungeon drop. The Healer pants from the set dye and wear nicely- I have them in gold- but they don't give the leather chaps kind of look but perhaps someone with a way different ski tone would have options that work with one of the dyes.

These have been turning heads (for better or worse) since the day they became dyable. It's funny how many people are running past me and just stop and I see them rotate trying to tell what's going on without being obvious and targeting me.

http://i.imgur.com/7vSuYUP.jpg

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I had this for healer and I don't know you could do this seriously. Thanks for sharing this!

http://i.imgur.com/ENTAFYK.jpg

Salmon Pink dye is the best dye. :x (Militia Subligar in case anyone wonders)

Sadly doesn't work for me nowadays seeing as I'm a wee bit darker, but Male Au Ra probably get the sluttiest Hempen underwear anyway. :p

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Originally Posted by Raminax

but Male Au Ra probably get the sluttiest Hempen underwear anyway. :p

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Whaaaat... you think so?

http://i.imgur.com/hylygT8.png