Character Creation Options!

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings everyone!

First off I wanted to say that it's great to hear the kinds of things you're looking for when it comes to updating the character creation options. We're seeing lots of interesting ideas pop up! We spoke with Yoshida and he said that of course, while these kinds of suggestions and ideas will take some time, they do have plans for it in the future! He also feels that it's important to offer the option to change your existing character's appearance at the same time, too.

Sounds pretty exciting, huh? What do you guys think? :cool:

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Much love to you guys for still keeping the addition of more customization choices in mind! I'm still waiting on the hairstyles since I heard it announced way back.

I am all for additional options, at least twice as many. But as far as sliders go, I play a game with a high degree of customization, such as Dragon Age, where every facial feature has a slider, and it overwhelms me. I usually just cycle through hair style/color, eyes, height, skin tone, and other noticeable things, and skip over the small things like jawline, eye socket depth, nose flatness, etc. Let's not take it too far, just give more variety where it counts.

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Originally Posted by BlaiseLallaise

I am all for additional options, at least twice as many. But as far as sliders go, I play a game with a high degree of customization, such as Dragon Age, where every facial feature has a slider, and it overwhelms me. I usually just cycle through hair style/color, eyes, height, skin tone, and other noticeable things, and skip over the small things like jawline, eye socket depth, nose flatness, etc. Let's not take it too far, just give more variety where it counts.

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I thought it was just me LOL

only disadentage of sliders is i can spend few hours finetunig them <_<

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings everyone!

First off I wanted to say that it's great to hear the kinds of things you're looking for when it comes to updating the character creation options. We're seeing lots of interesting ideas pop up! We spoke with Yoshida and he said that of course, while these kinds of suggestions and ideas will take some time, they do have plans for it in the future! He also feels that it's important to offer the option to change your existing character's appearance at the same time, too.

Sounds pretty exciting, huh? What do you guys think? :cool:

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I can't wait to see the new options!

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Originally Posted by Lamhirh

only disadentage of sliders is i can spend few hours finetunig them <_<

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Nope. Only disadvantage of sliders is that it's extremely easy to get extremely ugly/unnatural results and extremely hard to get actually good looking chars.

And that's a big one.

When we are able to alter our character's appearance, will that include race/gender, name, guardian, and/or birth date?

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings everyone!

First off I wanted to say that it's great to hear the kinds of things you're looking for when it comes to updating the character creation options. We're seeing lots of interesting ideas pop up! We spoke with Yoshida and he said that of course, while these kinds of suggestions and ideas will take some time, they do have plans for it in the future! He also feels that it's important to offer the option to change your existing character's appearance at the same time, too.

Sounds pretty exciting, huh? What do you guys think? :cool:

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Now if only you could get us an answer about the missing genders. That is part of Character Creation/Customization though so maybe its included but I can't hope blindly, Need a proper answer from the new leads.

I want to edit my char to have a peg-leg

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings everyone!

First off I wanted to say that it's great to hear the kinds of things you're looking for when it comes to updating the character creation options. We're seeing lots of interesting ideas pop up! We spoke with Yoshida and he said that of course, while these kinds of suggestions and ideas will take some time, they do have plans for it in the future! He also feels that it's important to offer the option to change your existing character's appearance at the same time, too.

Sounds pretty exciting, huh? What do you guys think? :cool:

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I think i've just become the happiest lala ever o.o

HOLY COW I have to say I am shocked that they are looking at this at all! I am not complaining! Thank you so much SE! Please, the more options, the better!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings everyone!

First off I wanted to say that it's great to hear the kinds of things you're looking for when it comes to updating the character creation options. We're seeing lots of interesting ideas pop up! We spoke with Yoshida and he said that of course, while these kinds of suggestions and ideas will take some time, they do have plans for it in the future! He also feels that it's important to offer the option to change your existing character's appearance at the same time, too.

Sounds pretty exciting, huh? What do you guys think? :cool:

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I don't want just character creation variations. I also want the ability to re-color our armor and clothes~...

Bring back the male Tarutaru Acorn-styled hair. It was way cute in XI. But I'm not playing as a male Lalafell though. D: lol

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Originally Posted by SilvertearRen

I don't want just character creation variations. I also want the ability to re-color our armor and clothes~...

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Yes, I'd like this too.

I just find it funny that you see all these complaints that call for a breast slider, but there's absolutely no complaints ever for a "bulge slider".

Kinda shows you which side is more... tasteful.

Cool, nice to know its on the radar.

My only concern with sliders is : will they cause problems in cutscenes and can they be developed with a reasonable amount of work? ( This depends largely if they developed facial sliders for internal development purposes, otherwise they're gonna have to do a whole deal .)

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

I just find it funny that you see all these complaints that call for a breast slider, but there's absolutely no complaints ever for a "bulge slider".

Kinda shows you which side is more... tasteful.

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I seriously lol'd in rl at this, a bulge slider? That would be so funny/gross, seeing a bunch of dudes running around with plate armor and a massive bulge XD

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Originally Posted by Natabant

I seriously lol'd in rl at this, a bulge slider? That would be so funny/gross lol XD.

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^_^

That was half the point. Glad you got a laugh.

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Originally Posted by Natabant

I seriously lol'd in rl at this, a bulge slider? That would be so funny/gross, seeing a bunch of dudes running around with subligars and a massive bulge XD

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There we go, fixed that for you.

I want to be Smaller!!! I'm a male lalafell, and I i'm the taller lala (size), and I want to be lower... I dont want to start my PJ again T_____T

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Originally Posted by Natabant

I seriously lol'd in rl at this, a bulge slider? That would be so funny/gross, seeing a bunch of dudes running around with plate armor and a massive bulge XD

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Originally Posted by Shikaree

There we go, fixed that for you.

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And there we go. Now men have a small idea of what it's like for women to hear all the complaints about wanting gigantic breasts.

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Originally Posted by Shikaree

There we go, fixed that for you.

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lol you mean like this? http://ffxiv.zam.com/Im/image/177237

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Originally Posted by Natabant

lol you mean like this? http://ffxiv.zam.com/Im/image/177237

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Rofl how can a game that can be good also give you stuff that can be so wrong? XD Every time in FFXI when I saw a guy in the metallic panties, I'd think about how wrong that looked.

Where is that gold subligar we were promised?

Nevermind, found it. Star-Spangled Subligar! ;)

http://common.allakhazam.com/images/...d6a45222ea.jpg

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Originally Posted by Natabant

lol you mean like this? http://ffxiv.zam.com/Im/image/177237

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WHOA

Seriously whoa.

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Originally Posted by Grit

Where is that gold subligar we were promised?

Nevermind, found it. Star-Spangled Subligar! ;)

http://common.allakhazam.com/images/...d6a45222ea.jpg

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Looks like a golden chainmail subligar XD

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Originally Posted by Shikaree

Rofl how can a game that can be good also give you stuff that can be so wrong? XD Every time in FFXI when I saw a guy in the metallic panties, I'd think about how wrong that looked.

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But then you'd see a elvaan woman or mithra wearing them and be like. "Feels good man!"

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Originally Posted by Natabant

lol you mean like this? http://ffxiv.zam.com/Im/image/177237

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I imagined something more like this: http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/...lin_Reaper.jpg

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Originally Posted by Enthy

Also, sliders seems like a bad idea to me... I've seen a few games where they let you use sliders when making your character and it usually ends up making the gear look horrible.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Only disadvantage of sliders is that it's extremely easy to get extremely ugly/unnatural results and extremely hard to get actually good looking chars.

And that's a big one.

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I don't see a problem. There is a wide range for a slider system, just limit it so that the chars don't look ugly and add enough presets for the lazy people. And let me have the freedom of designing my own char.

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Originally Posted by Nephera

Cool, nice to know its on the radar.

My only concern with sliders is : will they cause problems in cutscenes and can they be developed with a reasonable amount of work? ( This depends largely if they developed facial sliders for internal development purposes, otherwise they're gonna have to do a whole deal .)

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They shouldn't cause any problems, it's just a transformation (scaling) matrix multiplied with the base model (simplified example), it doesn't even take much processing power. And since they are already using character models in cutscenes and don't care much about collision detection anyway (miqo'te tails sometimes piercing through armor etc), it won't get any worse visually.

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Originally Posted by BlaiseLallaise

I imagined something more like this: http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/...lin_Reaper.jpg

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How can anyone forget the the goblin's fracking codpiece? Gods I love it lol!

I'm hoping that we get sliders, I think that would be rather cool. Also have presets for people that find it too much to handle.

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

I don't see a problem. There is a wide range for a slider system, just limit it so that the chars don't look ugly and add enough presets for the lazy people. And let me have the freedom of designing my own char.

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Give SE a break... making sliders will make it take even longer for them to finish designing gear.

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Originally Posted by Enthy

Give SE a break... making sliders will make it take even longer for them to finish designing gear.

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Tell me how a slider will take them longer than making presets. Answer: it won't. It's simply another way of representing presets just that you will create a slider with min-max parameter and fluent transition in between instead of multiple presets with set amount of difference between presets.

Not to mention the slider system is already in the game (options dialog, transparency etc) so it's not like they have to invent something completely new to do this.

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

Tell me how a slider will take them longer than making presets. Answer: it won't. It's simply another way of representing presets just that you will create a slider with min-max parameter and fluent transition in between instead of multiple presets with set amount of difference between presets.

Not to mention the slider system is already in the game (options dialog, transparency etc) so it's not like they have to invent something completely new to do this.

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ok. still don't like slider idea though.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings everyone!

First off I wanted to say that it's great to hear the kinds of things you're looking for when it comes to updating the character creation options. We're seeing lots of interesting ideas pop up! We spoke with Yoshida and he said that of course, while these kinds of suggestions and ideas will take some time, they do have plans for it in the future! He also feels that it's important to offer the option to change your existing character's appearance at the same time, too.

Sounds pretty exciting, huh? What do you guys think? :cool:

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Change my existing character's appearance? Awesome!

I think that would be awesome. I would quite enjoy changing the way my Avatar looks. I like how he looks right now, but in a couple years he'll need a make-over for sure. Nothing worse IMO than having the same looking avatar as someone else in your LS or party.

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

Tell me how a slider will take them longer than making presets. Answer: it won't. It's simply another way of representing presets just that you will create a slider with min-max parameter and fluent transition in between instead of multiple presets with set amount of difference between presets.

Not to mention the slider system is already in the game (options dialog, transparency etc) so it's not like they have to invent something completely new to do this.

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um... making sliders for two completely different functions does not work that way.

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Originally Posted by BlaiseLallaise

I imagined something more like this: http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/...lin_Reaper.jpg

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Good lord, now i remember why goblins were always so angry, viagra in large doses is never a good thing :/

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Originally Posted by Nephera

um... making sliders for two completely different functions does not work that way.

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I don't see why not. For example, if you make 2 body presets, you set the scaling parameter of the model to say, 50 and 100 in another preset. Now you can switch between 2 values. If you make a slider that scales the same parameter from 50 to 100, you will have 50 different presets created on the fly.

SE... I love you :)

And sliders would be awesome. As long as the minimum and maximum (and so everything in between)would be reasonable I think it would give those who want more creation power more creation options!

<3

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Originally Posted by Ceons

SE... I love you :)

And sliders would be awesome. As long as the minimum and maximum (and so everything in between)would be reasonable I think it would give those who want more creation power more creation options!

<3

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A definite yes on realistic limits if they were to implement sliders. Aion was... horrifying with those people who would make short characters with shoulders that stretched out 15 feet, and necks that pierced the heavens.