Wards full again

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Originally Posted by Azurus

Why should people be forced to sell their wards in less optimal wards? Ul dahs wards are by far the better choice for sellers. If SE hadnt funneled everyone there we'd have no problem but unfortunately there is a problem. Saying LL and grid arent full is precisely the problem if you think about it. Who would want to sell in those wards? And why should only so many people be able to sell in the wards they want to while others are forced to sell somewhere they do not wish to?

And if you told someone in 11 to go sell some level 75 armor is bastok instead of jeuno they would tell you to stfu cause the market for the armor is in jeuno. At this point you are being unreasonable and not thinking that there is a reason everyone uses ul dah and that it is unfair that only so many people can sell where they want while others have to move around or take on a tax others do not have to. its inequality and that is the biggest problem in itself.

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Unreasonable is someone expecting SE to reset the market wards because they lost their place. Unreasonable is refusing to make use of what's provided because it might mean you have to wait a little longer to sell something.

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Originally Posted by zaviermhigo

Yeah every ward is Selbina has been full for the last couple days. If you aren't on Selbina you should just say "wards on this server aren't full" because I can't see how you're servers wards not being full effects Selbina's.

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so i just created a characte in uldah on selbina and guess what i found! spots in the wards for retainers

so yeah try again, no room to you must mean no room in the ward you wanna be in

I thought Vedis made a fun game so I decided to try myself:

http://i54.tinypic.com/rsx1za.jpg

Most importantly, every single ward in Limsa and Gridania on Selbina have ample room. :)

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Originally Posted by Dynamis

LOL... good job. now you made it harder to find a spot.

Knew someone would be able to do it but you have to admit, it wasnt easy finding the spot

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No, you're right, it was literally the only ward available. And no I didn't keep the spot. ;)

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Originally Posted by Wynn

I thought Vedis made a fun game so I decided to try myself:

http://i54.tinypic.com/rsx1za.jpg

Most importantly, every single ward in Limsa and Gridania on Selbina have ample room. :)

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lol i woulda posted but i guess i dont gotta now(had to go out as soon as i did it)

Failed MW system fails. I honestly hope some players feel huge thrill of seeing a 3d model (once it loads up naturally) in the wards every time they show up. This must be a great moment to some people as they go through all this trouble to preserve it.

The rest of us would just like to buy stuff from a working economy.

AH please.

Also is there any way to see what you just sold and for how much since I can't possibly remember everything I put up?
Also is there an AH?

Yeah, enough with this nonsense retainers. Give us an auction house, so we don't have to walk all over wards looking for various multiple items. SE took a system that would have taken most people 5 minutes to buy, and required us to spend 15 minutes or more buying many items.

It's freaking retarded, and to make it worse, there are idiots that defend it still to this day.....

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Originally Posted by polyhedral

Yeah, enough with this nonsense retainers. Give us an auction house, so we don't have to walk all over wards looking for various multiple items. SE took a system that would have taken most people 5 minutes to buy, and required us to spend 15 minutes or more buying many items.

It's freaking retarded, and to make it worse, there are idiots that defend it still to this day.....

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To be fair. . .

We don't need an AH as such, with bidding and the like. They could link the cities, do away with the physical wards, and have everyone buy straight from the search interface while charging the seller a flat 5% tax. Problem solved, and with (probably) less coding involved.

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

To be fair. . .

We don't need an AH as such, with bidding and the like. They could link the cities, do away with the physical wards, and have everyone buy straight from the search interface while charging the seller a flat 5% tax. Problem solved, and with (probably) less coding involved.

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How is that what you just described not an AH? AH in XI works exactly the same way. In some cases like in Jeuno there's not even a physical counter from which you can open the AH menu just an NPC. But because XIV NPCs load a LOT slower than in XI I'd be happy if there's just the current menu and no NPC that you need to see before accessing the buying menu.

This is maybe OT but those counters at Hamlets look exactly like XI AH counters...

I honestly dont doubt that we'll see somethign closer to an auction house in the future. (near future if we're lucky) However, for the time being, to expect the SE to fix what is ENTIRELY a community issue is ridiculous. Yes there are plenty of issues with the wards, but nothing is game breaking in and of itself. The major issue here is that many many players operate just like the OP of this thread. They refuse to believe that they should move from uldah, thus uldah remains the optimal place to sell most items. And now your uldahn wards are full and "it's all SE's fault." When in reality, the problem falls on the shoulders of your servers community.

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

We don't need an AH as such, with bidding and the like.

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Most people refer to any market with the word AH. Most of them don't care a bit wether we can have actual auctions or not, the only really wanted option being the buyout anyway

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Originally Posted by Seif

How is that what you just described not an AH? AH in XI works exactly the same way. In some cases like in Jeuno there's not even a physical counter from which you can open the AH menu just an NPC. But because XIV NPCs load a LOT slower than in XI I'd be happy if there's just the current menu and no NPC that you need to see before accessing the buying menu.

This is maybe OT but those counters at Hamlets look exactly like XI AH counters...

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Originally Posted by Nipa

Most people refer to any market with the word AH. Most of them don't care a bit wether we can have actual auctions or not, the only really wanted option being the buyout anyway

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And Nipa answers the question for me. . .

It's not an AH because there are no auctions in the system I described. No auctions means no auction house.

I personally like the idea of retainers, but full wards and running around all over is totally annoying. So here's an idea that keeps retainers, but gets rid of the runaround and disappointment of full wards:

Scrap the wards.
Add a counter.
Add ability to summon retainers from the counter for buying/repairing//selling/storing. (Instead of a simple "buy" feature, you summon the retainer that has the goods you want. Remember that the whole point of MW was so that you could view everything that the retainer had on sale.)
Add a repair search system. (Categorize: DM Grade> Craft Class)
Add ability to "dispatch" retainers to non-physical wards for tax breaks.

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Originally Posted by Leenk

I honestly dont doubt that we'll see somethign closer to an auction house in the future. (near future if we're lucky) However, for the time being, to expect the SE to fix what is ENTIRELY a community issue is ridiculous. Yes there are plenty of issues with the wards, but nothing is game breaking in and of itself. The major issue here is that many many players operate just like the OP of this thread. They refuse to believe that they should move from uldah, thus uldah remains the optimal place to sell most items. And now your uldahn wards are full and "it's all SE's fault." When in reality, the problem falls on the shoulders of your servers community.

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So what you're saying is if my native city is Ul'dah, I'm a goldsmith, miner, pugilist (where all 3 of my guilds are incidentally) and all the wards are full I shouldn't expect to sell anything unless I'm willing to burn through all my anima? I'm sorry but if this game ever wants to move forward it has to make a way to sell wares readily available at all times. If it's going to be these broken retainer wards then fine, I'll keep a retainer in LL, just give me an airship to hop on so I can keep one stocked and running. Not that I like a 30 minute turn around of my play time to try and sell things, at least it's a start.

The reality is SE's successor of a an MMO hasn't improved, it has taken a step back as far as selling crafted/farmed items, and yes, it is their fault.