Petition to support polygamous marriage (when the system is released).

As someone who has no real problems with polygamy IRL, I would not mind them adding such a feature in. Perhaps they should wait a little while though, until marriages have been added and the system has spent some time settling in.

I admit that one of the reason I am playing is because of there decision to add same-sex marriages (It's not something I will probably ever do in-game, but I am a big supporter of equality and have been a fan of Final Fantasy since I was a kid, so now seemed the best time to give the game a try), a move which I am both surprised and delighted with. My fear with saying 'Is it enough?' though, and prepossessing such a addition already, is that it would simply add flames to those who, for some reason, are against same-sex marriage being added.

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Originally Posted by Galactimus

Beef jerky will never betray me.

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I lost it!

Can't please everybody

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Whenever I read this forum I hate myself more often than not when I'm finished. I don't know why I do this to myself.

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Yeah, I know that feeling.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Oh man it's the whole cliche playing itself out in real time before my eyes.

"Give and inch, they take a mile"

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This was the point I was trying to make at the start of the thread....and this is exactly what's happening.

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Originally Posted by Memex

Yup totally makes soooooooooo much sense that a bunch of people can form one marriage to each other but one man and another man or one woman and another woman is just wrong and makes no sense in a fantasy game... just stop before you embarrass yourself further.

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In the lore it makes sense. Miqote only mate with one male in the entire pack. You can see this if you visit the desert area near Zanrak...

I also think in the lore there are gay characters, so it makes sense that they changed marriage for people who wanted this.

I don't see anything wrong with this new request on marriage.

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Originally Posted by Elim

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You must of forgot the devilin case where a kidnapper lured a boy by using final fantasy 11.

I think it should have age restrictions because of that.

man, people just don't give up; it's a damn game.. you receive financial or government benefits. take what you get and go about your business. Jeebus

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Originally Posted by Vittorino

man, people just don't give up; it's a damn game.. you receive financial or government benefits. take what you get and go about your business. Jeebus

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Don't worry they will start asking for tax exempt license plates next hahaha

I want everything there is crammed into this game!!! If I don't get it, I will shout at the top of my lungs about what a big victim I am!!!

I'm offended!!! Help!!!

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Originally Posted by HeroSamson

You must of forgot the devilin case where a kidnapper lured a boy by using final fantasy 11.

I think it should have age restrictions because of that.

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Dunno that case, but you don't need a fake marriage system(that could be rped out anyway) on a video game to lure and kidnap people. Lol. If you want to block anyone from the chance of that happening then you'll pretty much have to block the whole internet.

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Originally Posted by Elim

Dunno that case, but you don't need a fake marriage system(that could be rped out anyway) on a video game to lure and kidnap people. Lol. If you want to block anyone from the chance of that happening then you'll pretty much have to block the whole internet.

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This. This right here.

Find it hilarious that a lot of people who spam in this thread didn't type the same stuff in that gay marriage thread. Like this is the line that's too far allegedly. Everything or nothing. Not everywhere gay marriage is legal just like not everywhere polygamy is legal. All this bashing that's towards this thread can EQUALLY fit that other petition in the past. This isn't necessarily hypocritical, but very odd as a whole. The whole life bonding thing shouldn't exist at all. If you're going to change the name to have said past petition settle.... then add the polygamy. Everything... or nothing...

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Originally Posted by SeekerScorpio

Find it hilarious that a lot of people who spam in this thread didn't type the same stuff in that gay marriage thread. Like this is the line that's too far allegedly. Everything or nothing. Not everywhere gay marriage is legal just like not everywhere polygamy is legal. All this bashing that's towards this thread can EQUALLY fit that other petition in the past. This isn't necessarily hypocritical, but very odd as a whole. The whole life bonding thing shouldn't exist at all. If you're going to change the name to have said past petition settle.... then add the polygamy. Everything... or nothing...

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There is no comparison between polygamy and gay marriage. The two issues are so far apart it's mind boggling.

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Originally Posted by reality_check

There is no comparison between polygamy and gay marriage. The two issues are so far apart it's mind boggling.

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No it's actually the same. One loves the same gender, the other loves multiple people. One is starting to get slowly accepted into society... the other isn't yet! It's small minded thinking that's holding this back. Just because people in this generation (narrow minded) find it gross that multiple people can love another isn't your place to judge. I remember this was said about gay marriage what early this century and throughout most the past in the A.D.s?

For all I know the OP could make this out of spite, but in reality it's not far from the truth.

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No it's actually the same. One loves the same gender, the other loves multiple people. One is starting to get slowly accepted into society... the other isn't yet! It's small minded thinking that's holding this back.

For all I know the OP could make this out of spite, but in reality it's not far from the truth.

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One is born gay.

I've yet to see any convincing literature that tells me that one is born a polygamist seen as how marriage is a societal construct.

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Originally Posted by reality_check

One is born gay.

I've yet to see any convincing literature that tells me that one is born a polygamist seen as how marriage is a societal construct.

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Yeah it's called the animal kingdom. See Lions as a notorious example.

Also the whole born gay thing hasn't been proven to be true yet. A good amount of social engineering at a very very young age can do wonders (which is the other theory). Drop this political topic and stay on track.

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Yeah it's called the animal kingdom. See Lions as a notorious example.

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Lions do not get married.

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Originally Posted by reality_check

Lions do not get married.

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Seriously? that's your only rebuttal? Great way to downsize the whole gay marriage then. Lions don't get married. NO DUH. Tell me something I don't know. Gay lions don't get married. Touch on that topic too! Don't Michael Moore this with pure half truths. You're just socially engineered to believe polygamy is gross but gay marriage isn't. I have nothing against gay marriage, but the fact is that they're both either born or choose to do what they do (neither has been dis proven)... and that is reality.

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Originally Posted by SeekerScorpio

Also the whole born gay thing hasn't been proven to be true yet.

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When did you choose to be straight?

All the serious responses to this.

Hoo-boy.

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Originally Posted by SeekerScorpio

Also the whole born gay thing hasn't been proven to be true yet. A good amount of social engineering at a very very young age can do wonders (which is the other theory). Drop this political topic and stay on track.

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I've always been curious about this.

Born? No, out of the question.

Influences? Highly Probable.

Is it normally a conscious choice? No.


To sumaraise every possible eventuality for every single person under one umbrella and saying "Social Engineering Does [X]" is equally as ridiculous as saying "Everyone like Cigarettes"
Every person was raised under different circumstances, different influences, a different mind-set, a different out look on everything. It's near impossible to pin it down to anything other than how the brain simply wires up in the end.

I'd personally disagree almost completely with social engineering being a "definitive" outcome, as my own scenario and up bringing would completely contradict that theory, through and through.


OH LOOK I'M OVER-THINKING NOW.
But food for thought.

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Originally Posted by Eriatarka12

Isn't it possible for us to love and be friends with more than one person?

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Unable to own 2 rings. seems pretty cut and dry to me.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M

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This sums up my thoughts exactly. Wow.

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Originally Posted by OMEGAlomania

Please, stop. They made a really cool descision to make the system free and open to all, but this is just getting silly.

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Uh no.

Why can't I marry my Chocobo Companion??? I love my Chocobo. Why is there no option? Are you kidding? You mean to tell me I'm NOT going to be able to marry my Chocobo? Worst game ever. I can't believe I'm paying a subscription for this game and I can't even marry my Chocobo.

(Wish I could type this with a straight face).

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Originally Posted by RygaenYuui

Uh no.

Why can't I marry my Chocobo Companion??? I love my Chocobo. Why is there no option? Are you kidding? You mean to tell me I'm NOT going to be able to marry my Chocobo? Worst game ever. I can't believe I'm paying a subscription for this game and I can't even marry my Chocobo.

(Wish I could type this with a straight face).

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lmao!!! Yay bestiality!

This thread has become more of an insult to comedy than to equal rights.

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Originally Posted by Tule

This thread has become more of an insult to comedy than to equal rights.

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It was never intended to be either imo. It was intended to be a right wing hate attack similar to what Fox News and Rush Limbaugh do on a daily basis.

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Originally Posted by Elim

Dunno that case, but you don't need a fake marriage system(that could be rped out anyway) on a video game to lure and kidnap people. Lol. If you want to block anyone from the chance of that happening then you'll pretty much have to block the whole internet.

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No but setting a age restriction in place helps out a little, encouraging and letting kids marry someone older and then that bond grows and they get real feelings for each other and decide to take it further.

Who's fault would that be, trust me this stuff happens and it could turn out bad. It happened on nintendo DS.

People actually meet on games and feelings grow also, yes the marriage system is fake but what goes on behind the scenes isn't.

you are against preventing adults with minors? Almost sounds like you are for it.

Wouldn't have to block the whole internet just set a age limit. doesn't matter if its fake or not, the two people controlling these characters arent fake.

This is why people around the world are against same sex because it leads to, I want to marry me 10 people along with my pet.

There is a big difference between, I found the one person I love regardless of sex and I'm going to love many people. If you want a open marriage do that. You can be married and have more then one lover.

I wasn't going to respond to this as I'm not too sure its a serious request, but I just can't help myself after reading some of these replies. I dunno whether its just plain funny or just plain sad that some of those who were waving their flags for tolerance and inclusion in the same gender thread can't show that tolerance they demanded here. Instead they rail against this idea and call it disrespectful or going too far. Tolerance for the gender preferences and love-lifestyles of other consenting adults shouldn't be a one way street. If you are going to demand it for yourself, should you not be willing to show it to others?

But, back on topic: From a purely mechanical point of view I support the idea of polygamous life bonds in game. Reason being, I have 4 characters that I play regularly while my RL spouse only plays one. :P

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Really.

Equal Rights. in a Subscription Based JRPG MMO.

Please. Tell me more.

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Originally Posted by HeroSamson

No but setting a age restriction in place helps out a little, encouraging and letting kids marry someone older and then that bond grows and they get real feelings for each other and decide to take it further.

Had to snip this.

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A fake marriage system in a fantasy world on the internet doesn't "encourage young people to marry older people". Lol. It may encourage some people to marry. Maybe. You don't need a fake marriage system to develop feelings for people on the interwebs. All you need is a platform to talk. That's partly why there's already age restrictions on playing MMOs in the first place.

Also I am a minor. I don't think I should be pointlessly locked out of content.

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This is why people around the world are against same sex because it leads to, I want to marry me 10 people along with my pet.

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LOLOLOL, no. You see, you're absolutely wrong. People around the world are against same-sex because they're bigots. Same-sex marriage does not suddenly lead to polyamorous marriage and definitely does not lead to marrying animals or inanimate objects. The ONLY people who make those claims are.. guess who? People who are against same-sex marriage.

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Originally Posted by Elim

A fake marriage system in a fantasy world I am a minor

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I see this as a form of "adult content"

I am not paranoid because I know whats right from wrong, yes I do believe that kids should be locked away from adult content even in Sims its considered adult content.

Yes its a fantasy world but has real people playing behind the characters. if there weren't anyone playing the characters this game wouldn't even exist. so the fantasy world argument to me doesn't mean anything.

People have been busted for stuff in games. anyways that's the end of my rant about this, I still think there should be age limit.

I foresee a Miqote Harem FC :) Place your bets here!

lol!!

FFXIV: ARR rated M for Mature! Depicts real life marriage simulation, perverse midget love themes, and cats that are in heat. Minor alcohol and goblin cheese reference.

Sales boost?

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I see this as a form of "adult content"

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That's what they made the ESRB for (not that it does any good).

Definitely with you OP on this one and I will always be with people when it comes to basic human rights. There is no reason for Yoshida not to include this option. It is good for the players and good for the game.

Dear Mr. Yoshi-san

please make your game have marriages that support exactly the number of people that are in my FC

exactly that number. Please

love,

Mahri

This is very funny. Your not trolling, right?

Dear Mr. Yoshi-san

please make it so we can actually marry you in-game.

All of us.

All

of us.

And you.

Love,

Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn General Discussion Forum (EN)

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LOLOLOL, no. You see, you're absolutely wrong. People around the world are against same-sex because they're bigots. Same-sex marriage does not suddenly lead to polyamorous marriage and definitely does not lead to marrying animals or inanimate objects. The ONLY people who make those claims are.. guess who? People who are against same-sex marriage.

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Here we go again...trotting out the old "if you don't agree with me you're a bigot"....no actually, if we don't agree with you, that is our opinion, which we're entitled to...in fact we're as much entitled to disagree with your views as you are to disagree with ours, difference is we don't go around calling you names (well at least not out loud or on forums :p ). You really do your own cause no good at all by calling people "bigots", you do it HARM, I guess you're so wrapped up in your own little world with your massive chip on your shoulder, that you haven't realised how you manage to alienate people.

Back on topic...NO NO NO....next you'll be asking for benefits to be paid out because you're too damn lazy in real life to go out and get a job and you want "equal rights" in a GAME.