Cactuar Progression Thread - v2.0

I was being sarcastic about the server hopping So I mean how many of you guys transferred back to cactuar? Welcome back etc, and seriously did KUNKKA come back?

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Originally Posted by crashtheface

I was being sarcastic about the server hopping So I mean how many of you guys transferred back to cactuar? Welcome back etc, and seriously did KUNKKA come back?

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only two people who came over last night are from cactuar

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Originally Posted by Roxa

only two people who came over last night are from cactuar

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Cool thanks for clearing that up. Hope to see you guys around, and I hope you guys find cactuar to be a nice home. Please allow me to extend a welcome to our server!

Curse of Missing Guy - Group 2
[Turn 8] cleared 4/20
Both groups in our FC have now cleared up to T9.

[Turn 6] - 4/03
[Turn 7] - 4/12
since I didn't post these.


http://i.imgur.com/zaqbLQ5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pXNqEn2.jpg

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Originally Posted by crashtheface

I can't be alone in thinking that regardless of the server transfer tag on the progression chart, that their kill OFF server should most certainly not count towards a kill on this server.

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Did we have an unknown nerf on Zalera? The level of special here is astounding. I guess where you kill a boss is indicative to where you are progression wise. I can understand if confirmation of date is questionable, in which you can resource original kill picture and date on Zalera. Just the fact you said "Had you been on cactuar it would probably be another story, makes anything you say as valuable as a telemarketer. So if we killed it on Cactuar it may or may not be credible?

The second best question is: "Why did you move servers?"
Answer: By the time I left Zalera I was sending friend requests to NPC's...

I don't personally care where we are on your server progression thread. What I do know is the method of tracking progression kills is absolutely flawed. Would be like BG coming to our server and you attempting to discredit them from them being the first to kill turn 9 because it wasn't done on your server. The conversation is petty and that's what I was referencing, thanks for catching up. I highly doubt anyone else in my group cares where we are on that list in regards to this thread. Vena simply stated where we are in progression having moved on server. Cobra is server first by margins and the rest of us are holding onto participation ribbons and THAT's all that matters.

Why post here then? Go post on the server from whence you actually obtained the win. Come back Tuesday and post here when you've obtained a clear on the Cactuar server. Thanks for catching up.

Come on folks, let us create a more hospitable atmosphere for all. There is no need to show hostility or embitterment to anyone; move forward from this point on in a direction that is worthy of Cactuar. Let us not entangle ourselves in trivial matters of self-importance, that includes myself. This thread is a beacon for other servers to gaze at our glory, not to hear us quarrel with one another.

Lets stay on topic & utilize this thread for its purpose, if you wish to continue there is a /tell function in-game with a /add blacklist program :)

In the heart of it all congratulation "Judgement" "Merit" & "Curses 2nd Group."
(ps. delete your posts lolz <3)

Happy Hunting.

Love- Vittorino

Also, please change it from "Merit" to FE, as thats what we'll be raiding under and what the FC was called on our previous server.

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Originally Posted by Roomba

Why post here then? Go post on the server from whence you actually obtained the win. Come back Tuesday and post here when you've obtained a clear on the Cactuar server. Thanks for catching up.

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If you had actually bothered to look you'd notice I ran the progression thread on the previous server we were on.

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Originally Posted by Roxa

If you had actually bothered to look you'd notice I ran the progression thread on the previous server we were on.

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I have no reason to look, I'm not on Zalera. But I'm glad that you posted the correct details in the right place. Spot on. Welcome to Cactuar, and may your future achievements be verified in a proper (and accurate) fashion!~ <3

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Originally Posted by Roomba

I have no reason to look, I'm not on Zalera. But I'm glad that you posted the correct details in the right place. Spot on. Welcome to Cactuar, and may your future achievements be verified in a proper (and accurate) fashion!~ <3

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If you have no reason to look then why were you telling me to do something that I had already done, remaining ignorant of what had actually been done?

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Originally Posted by Roxa

If you have no reason to look then why were you telling me to do something that I had already done, remaining ignorant of what had actually been done?

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As far as I'm aware I didn't tell anyone to do anything, I'm just stating a simple fact: this is the Cactuar forum, and as such I would expect that the only activity monitoring being done here should be that from which originated within the Cactuar community. I'm glad that you've decided to transfer to our lovely server, that's great. But I'm simply refuting that (for the sake of those who are monitoring the progression of current groups) that details and facts should be sorted out. Ultimately who and when doesn't matter, but this thread exists because clearly there are those who wish to know.

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Originally Posted by Roomba

Go post on the server from whence you actually obtained the win.

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So this statement was rhetorical?

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Originally Posted by Roxa

So this statement was rhetorical?

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At the time I told your friend to post on the correct server, I was ignorant to the fact that you had already done so as you stated above. At least I'm willing to admit I made an error or come to a compromise. You're just blatantly disregarding fact in favour of stirring the pot. Do you not understand the point I am trying to make here? Great, you posted in 2 threads. Why was this done? Which server were you on when you obtained the win? Zalera or Cactuar?

/emote grabs popcorn

you would think these guys were disputing server first or something important

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Originally Posted by Roomba

You're just blatantly disregarding fact in favour of stirring the pot. Do you not understand the point I am trying to make?

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Hey Kettle! My name's Pot. You're black.

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Originally Posted by Roomba

At the time I told your friend to post on the correct server, I was ignorant to the fact that you had already done so as you stated above. At least I'm willing to admit I made an error or come to a compromise. You're just blatantly disregarding fact in favour of stirring the pot. Do you not understand the point I am trying to make here? Great, you posted in 2 threads. Why was this done? Which server were you on when you obtained the win? Zalera or Cactuar?

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You can't keep anything straight.

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Originally Posted by Roomba

As far as I'm aware I didn't tell anyone to do anything,

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After saying this you come back and then say -

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Originally Posted by Roomba

At the time I told your friend to post on the correct server,

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What fact am I disregarding? I've never said anything about how our kill's should be counted. I simply don't like people people with no actual position of power telling me or others what to do.

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Originally Posted by Roomba

Great, you posted in 2 threads.

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You're right I have posted in two threads, though in this one I've made no mention about our progress, as I just mentioned above. So what exactly is the point of saying I've posted in two threads?

And to finish it off, I frankly don't care about the point you're trying to make because you are in no way my superior.

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Originally Posted by aerikon

/emote grabs popcorn

you would think these guys were disputing server first or something important

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So I guess I live in a bizarro universe where things aren't posted in the correct place and facts are compiled from irrelevant data drawn from random sources. Would you like me to start having your mail forwarded to your neighbor? Was the wrench in my toolbox swapped with your brain when you were born?

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Originally Posted by Roomba

So I guess I live in a bizarro universe where things aren't posted in the correct place and facts are compiled from irrelevant data drawn from random sources. Would you like me to start having your mail forwarded to your neighbor? Was the wrench in my toolbox swapped with your brain when you were born?

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I could ask you the same question - Nowhere on the OP's post does it say anything about a requirement for the kills to be on Cactuar for them to be counted. And if you had any education at all you'd understand that any document drafted favors the party that did not draft it. You could say it's implied because it says "Cactuar Progression thread", but no factual statement was presented that stated anything about where the kills had to actually happen for them to be counted.

Just because something is irrelevant in your little world doesn't mean that everyone shares your viewpoint. And for the record, now i've finally said something about our progression.

and i guess you live in this wonderful world where if you weren't there it didn't happen. therefore as i was not there you still haven't completed turn 1.

pretty simple really, when vena posted it was just saying where we were at, not that we were server __'th. no matter where the kills happened they happened so deal with it if that bothers you so much that people on other servers do content

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Originally Posted by Roxa

I could ask you the same question - Nowhere on the OP's post does it say anything about a requirement for the kills to be on Cactuar for them to be counted. And if you had any education at all you'd understand that any document drafted favors the party that did not draft it. You could say it's implied because it says "Cactuar Progression thread", but no factual statement was presented that stated anything about where the kills had to actually happen for them to be counted.

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I tried to be civil initially, because I figured my point would make sense to the most basic among us. But apparently you Zalera folk are a different breed and do not understand why there is a separate forum for each server in the game. I'm glad that you guys got a kill, that's cool. Though I do ask myself, if you weren't looking to have your progress tracked with the groups that did actually originate from Cactuar, why post here?

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Originally Posted by aerikon

and i guess you live in this wonderful world where if you weren't there it didn't happen. therefore as i was not there you still haven't completed turn 1.

pretty simple really, when vena posted it was just saying where we were at, not that we were server __'th. no matter where the kills happened they happened so deal with it if that bothers you so much that people on other servers do content

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Aerikon, I'll just assume for a second that maybe you aren't as huge of a troll as Roxa here. I'm not trying to disregard your clears, or wins, or how many hats you have. The fact of the matter is, I wouldn't go to your Zalera forum and post that my group cleared 'x' content. Why wouldn't I do this? The answer should seem obvious.

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Originally Posted by Roomba

I tried to be civil initially, because I figured my point would make sense to the most basic among us. But apparently you Zalera folk are a different breed and do not understand why there is a separate forum for each server in the game. I'm glad that you guys got a kill, that's cool. Though I do ask myself, if you weren't looking to have your progress tracked with the groups that did actually originate from Cactuar, why post here?

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So you assumed that everyone would share your viewpoint because you're you? How full of yourself are you? And I'm pretty sure that the reason the Dev's created a different forum for each server is probably to make information more condensed. Though I'm pretty sure we transferred here and Vena was informing the server of our current progression. I'll reiterate that nowhere on the OP's post does it say anything about where the kills had to originate, its not like we're on a different server trying to say we're apart of this server. There is absolutely zero correlation between the purpose of the creation of "server forums" and the imaginary rulebook that you guys are trying to follow for this particular thread.

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Originally Posted by Roomba

The fact of the matter is, I wouldn't go to your Zalera forum and post that my group cleared 'x' content. Why wouldn't I do this? The answer should seem obvious.

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The reason you wouldnt do this is because you didnt transfer to Zalera.

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Originally Posted by Roomba

Aerikon, I'll just assume for a second that maybe you aren't as huge of a troll as Roxa here. I'm not trying to disregard your clears, or wins, or how many hats you have. The fact of the matter is, I wouldn't go to your Zalera forum and post that my group cleared 'x' content. Why wouldn't I do this? The answer should seem obvious.

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You seem to be under the assumption that we are still on Zalera. We're not. We're on Cactaur. So yes, it would be incorrect for you to go onto Zalera's progression thread stating your cleared content without you server transferring there first. But as you can see we are now on this server, thus our progression is valid on this thread because we are now a part of Cactaur. Logic is fun, you should try it sometime.

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Originally Posted by Roxa

The reason you wouldnt do this is because you didnt transfer to Zalera.

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Brb, going to go post on the Forbes Leadership Forum what a great ciabatta I made last week.

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Originally Posted by Talluler

You seem to be under the assumption that we are still on Zalera. We're not. We're on Cactaur. So yes, it would be incorrect for you to go onto Zalera's progression thread stating your cleared content without you server transferring there first. But as you can see we are now on this server, thus our progression is valid on this thread because we are now a part of Cactaur. Logic is fun, you should try it sometime.

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When did you clear T8? The 17th? Cool. When did your group transfer to Cactuar? 20th? Cool.

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Originally Posted by Roomba

Brb, going to go post on the Forbes Leadership Forum what a great ciabatta I made last week.

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You've still provided no information on where it states where your kills have to be for them to be counted for progression.

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Originally Posted by Roomba

When did you clear T8? The 17th? Cool. When did your group transfer to Cactuar? 20th? Cool.

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Is our entire group here? Yes, Do we have the gear to prove it? Yes, are we using the same FC name? (Check in game, we're all under FE now that the 1 day hold has lifted) Oh look at that we are. So again I'm going to ask where does it say that you have to be on server for the kills to count.

EDIT: Since your brain seems to be inside of my toolbox (Crap I seem to be missing a wrench), if you can provide any information to where it states where the kills had to originate that was drafted BEFORE we transferred here, I'll concede to you.

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Originally Posted by Roxa

Is our entire group here? Yes, Do we have the gear to prove it? Yes, are we using the same FC name? (Check in game, we're all under FE now that the 1 day hold has lifted) Oh look at that we are. So again I'm going to ask where does it say that you have to be on server for the kills to count.

EDIT: Since your brain seems to be inside of my toolbox (Crap I seem to be missing a wrench), if you can provide any information to where it states where the kills had to originate that was drafted BEFORE we transferred here, I'll concede to you.

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I never said you or anyone else was lying. Again, it's great that there are more groups clearing the current content. My point is and has always been that your previous recent victory PROBABLY shouldn't be counted on our current servers tracker as when you initially got the win you were on a different one.

But I mean, it's already on there anyway. So *shrug* I guess.

Not that I want to get involved in any of this, but just wanted to clear something up as I've had a few conversations in game today about. The point of this thread is track the progression of guilds on Cactuar. Let's say Curse transferred off. I would more than likely leave them here, but put up a note as to when they transferred off, similar to how I noted that FE transferred in.

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Originally Posted by Roomba

I never said you or anyone else was lying. Again, it's great that there are more groups clearing the current content. My point is and has always been that your previous recent victory PROBABLY shouldn't be counted on our current servers tracker as when you initially got the win you were on a different one.

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Again I'm going to ask why? What's different about Cactuar vs Zalera other than the playerbase? Same 8 players are in the group, so its not like we came here and had to start picking up people to try and re-kill it. The server integrity is the same seeing as they're on the same data center even. So the ONLY difference is the name of the server and the players on it, which we've moved all of our players here. Once again I'm going to ask where it states that the kills had to originate on Cactuar for them to be counted.

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Originally Posted by Menriq

Not that I want to get involved in any of this, but just wanted to clear something up as I've had a few conversations in game today about. The point of this thread is track the progression of guilds on Cactuar. Let's say Curse transferred off. I would more than likely leave them here, but put up a note as to when they transferred off, similar to how I noted that FE transferred in.

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Then shouldn't this rule have been noted in the OP (or even second post) if it was going to be enforced? Life would sure be great if I could go along making up rules as they come to fit any situation in my favor.

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Originally Posted by Menriq

Not that I want to get involved in any of this, but just wanted to clear something up as I've had a few conversations in game today about. The point of this thread is track the progression of guilds on Cactuar. Let's say Curse transferred off. I would more than likely leave them here, but put up a note as to when they transferred off, similar to how I noted that FE transferred in.

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Yeah I hear ya Menriq, and I'm really not trying to start an argument here. I'm simply trying to point out that if we're going to compile data and information down to specific dates and times, etc. there should probably be a few rules and stipulations.

I'm not making up rules. I'm saying you all are on Cactuar, thus your progression is being tracked. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Originally Posted by Roomba

Yeah I hear ya Menriq, and I'm really not trying to start an argument here. I'm simply trying to point out that if we're going to compile data and information down to specific dates and times, etc. there should probably be a few rules and stipulations.

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Dat hindsight.

Also @ Menriq, I'm going to be a little nitpicky here then since everyone else has been, it's my turn now. Why are we listed after Judgement then? Also the name hasn't been changed to reflect the FC that we're actually using despite me updating it on page 14 I believe. I don't see any rules stated that says "If you transfer here, you'll be listed behind others despite the kill dates"

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Originally Posted by Roxa

Again I'm going to ask why? What's different about Cactuar vs Zalera other than the playerbase? Same 8 players are in the group, so its not like we came here and had to start picking up people to try and re-kill it. The server integrity is the same seeing as they're on the same data center even. So the ONLY difference is the name of the server and the players on it, which we've moved all of our players here. Once again I'm going to ask where it states that the kills had to originate on Cactuar for them to be counted.

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There's no difference inherently in the game itself between servers, no. But imagine this: you were an athlete in the Olympics, and your gold medal from running the triathlon in the US was transferred to the Canadian team because you moved to Canada the week following the race. I'll just have to agree to disagree I suppose. Welcome to Cactuar, good luck in the future.

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Originally Posted by Roomba

There's no difference inherently in the game itself between servers, no. But imagine this: you were an athlete in the Olympics, and your gold medal from running the triathlon in the US was transferred to the Canadian team because you moved to Canada the week following the race. I'll just have to agree to disagree I suppose. Welcome to Cactuar, good luck in the future.

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I'm pretty sure the organization that runs the Olympics would have a set of rules in place for situations like this.