[Dev1008] Makeshift Jumping Implementation Poll

What resources? They are working on the game regardless.

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Originally Posted by BloodLotus

It's not just about the people.

It's about the resources.

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its about both
and they really unreasonable people posting dont realize or care about that

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Originally Posted by Wilhelmina

What resources? They are working on the game regardless.

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people = resources
money = resources

there are several ways to define it when it comes to game development

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

people = resources
money = resources

there are several ways to define it when it comes to game development

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Also:

Memory = Resources.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

people = resources
money = resources

there are several ways to define it when it comes to game development

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Ok granted, this is absolutely correct.

I'm trying to tie in their "risk assessment" statement. I believe that they will consider what will get them the best outcome for the use of the resources they have available.

Between Jump and Chocobos which would bring in more subscribers?
Jump and Story Quests?

And continue on like that, jump will remain on the back burner until most of what people want becomes implemented. By that point people may be happy with the game and jump won't even need to be considered.

I think I lost where I was going with that.

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Originally Posted by BloodLotus

Ok granted, this is absolutely correct.

I'm trying to tie in their "risk assessment" statement. I believe that they will consider what will get them the best outcome for the use of the resources they have available.

Between Jump and Chocobos which would bring in more subscribers?
Jump and Story Quests?

And continue on like that, jump will remain on the back burner until most of what people want becomes implemented. By that point people may be happy with the game and jump won't even need to be considered.

I think I lost where I was going with that.

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yeah and thats why its low priority
and will stay low priority

there are so many things that will need to come first

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Originally Posted by Leeloo

Yes, I understand the 2 different jumping options. But if one wanted to look at the poll as pro-jump vs anti-jump they simply need to add the 2 jump votes together. Makes sense to me...

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Then again, some people who voted for limited jump would not have voted in favour of jump at all if "limited" hadn't been an option. Some would have voted no. So the votes for limited jump can't be taken as "for jump" but only as it says.. "for limited jump."

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Some who voted for limited wouldn't hate unlimited jump, but would prefer limited.
Some who voted for limited would hate unlimited jump and not vote for it.

It's not so black and white, and can't be seen as only for or against.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

Jump is coming, period, regardless of what anti jump people want

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:( I'm sorry, but someone misinformed you or perhaps you misunderstood something.
Jumping may or may not be implemented after testing and risk analysis.

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Originally Posted by Nabiri

Then again, some people who voted for limited jump would not have voted in favour of jump at all if "limited" hadn't been an option. Some would have voted no. So the votes for limited jump can't be taken as "for jump" but only as it says.. "for limited jump."

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Some who voted for limited wouldn't hate unlimited jump, but would prefer limited.
Some who voted for limited would hate unlimited jump and not vote for it.

It's not so black and white, and can't be seen as only for or against.

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How is voting for an option that reads

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Like if you WANT jumping Limited

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= not being for jump?

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Originally Posted by Nabiri

Then again, some people who voted for limited jump would not have voted in favour of jump at all if "limited" hadn't been an option. Some would have voted no. So the votes for limited jump can't be taken as "for jump" but only as it says.. "for limited jump."

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Some who voted for limited wouldn't hate unlimited jump, but would prefer limited.
Some who voted for limited would hate unlimited jump and not vote for it.

It's not so black and white, and can't be seen as only for or against.

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Thank you for understanding the reason for this thread and explaining it better than I can.

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Originally Posted by Leeloo

How is voting for an option that reads = not being for jump?

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Read Nabiri's post again.

I'm sure you'll get it eventually.

@Leeloo: I'm sorry you didn't understand. I explained it as well as I possibly could have.

@BloodLotus: Thank you. ^^ I'm usually not very good at explaining things. I hope it helps some people.

2 say I WANT jumping
1 says I DON'T WANT jumping

Sure there may be particulars about the kind of jumping you'd like to see or are willing to deal with, but voting for something that says "I WANT" jumping says "I'm for jumping" to me -shrugs-

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Originally Posted by Leeloo

2 say I WANT jumping
1 says I DON'T WANT jumping

Sure there may be particulars about the kind of jumping you'd like to see or are willing to deal with, but voting for something that says "I WANT" jumping says "I'm for jumping" to me -shrugs-

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What kind of jumping do you want?
Mario (push a button to jump) = Unlimited
Wind Waker (walk up to a ledge and automatically jump) = Limited
No jumping at all.

This is the reason for the 3 options and this thread.

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Originally Posted by BloodLotus

What kind of jumping do you want?
Mario (push a button to jump) = Unlimited
Wind Waker (walk up to a ledge and automatically jump) = Limited
No jumping at all.

This is the reason for the 3 options and this thread.

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Nevermind...

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Originally Posted by Leeloo

2 say I WANT jumping
1 says I DON'T WANT jumping

Sure there may be particulars about the kind of jumping you'd like to see or are willing to deal with, but voting for something that says "I WANT" jumping says "I'm for jumping" to me -shrugs-

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No, they don't. And they shouldn't be taken that way as it's misleading. They say "limited" and "unlimited."
If suddenly the "limited" option was taken away, many more votes could go into "no jump" for all we know.

The poll results do not simply express "jump or no jump." It's just a tiny bit more complicated than that.

it is just hard to explain this to people who never study on this field to understand.

But basically, when someone want to make a good poll, there is a method for each case to make thing most fair (for research purpose), and also method to make thing most unfair (for business purpose)

This poll just happen to be kind of the second purpose I mention, either you wished for that or not.

To make thin most fair in this case : (you can go ask your teacher/professor to confrm if you know any)

Because there is 3 choice we want : black, white-grey, and grey.

The type of poll that is the most suitable for this is to make score for each choice: Then, allow player put what they want most in order from 3 score, 2 score, and 1 score. (If SE want to make a poll, their poll maker will use this style)

However, I know that this forum not allow it, so the best choice we have is to do it in 2 thread : want jump or not first. and then divide between jump later. Hope you understand what I want to point out.

Me personally is not against anybody or any choice, I just see this unfair, so I point this out.

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Originally Posted by Alise

it is just hard to explain this to people who never study on this field to understand.

But basically, when someone want to make a good poll, there is a method for each case to make thing most fair (for research purpose), and also method to make thing most unfair (for business purpose)

This poll just happen to be kind of the second purpose I mention, either you wished for that or not.

To make thin most fair in this case : (you can go ask your teacher/professor to confrm if you know any)

Because there is 3 choice we want : black, white-grey, and grey.

The type of poll that is the most suitable for this is to make score for each choice: Then, allow player put what they want most in order from 3 score, 2 score, and 1 score. (If SE want to make a poll, their poll maker will use this style)

However, I know that this forum not allow it, so the best choice we have is to do it in 2 thread : want jump or not first. and then divide between jump later. Hope you understand what I want to point out.

Me personally is not against anybody or any choice, I just see this unfair, so I point this out.

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I see your point, but how many people who voted for limited jumping would vote no jumping for the reasons outlined throughout the entire thread?

Those like myself who wouldn't mind a middle ground would have to vote for no jumping when that wasn't what I wanted exactly. The gray area lets me express the kind of jumping I personally and apparently a few others wouldn't mind being implemented in the game.