Auto-logout exploit?

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Originally Posted by Crica

i read your whole post - it said you are upset the server is full of characters to render that would be rendered even if ppl are not afk - so i told you to go play the game since you can log in just fine instead of staring at afk characters being rendered instead of playing characters being rendered....

pretty fun solution, dont you agree? /shrug

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So now you assume I stare at AFK characters. Cute. Don't you just know everything? Thank you, o' wise one.
You're right, AFK characters have absolutely 0 impact on the server. You got me! Boy, how silly am I?
Rendering 30 active characters as compared to 30 active + 80 AFK makes no difference.

You sir, win the day. Enjoy! Obvious brick wall, so my job is done here.

-Flies away-

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Originally Posted by Swishytail

So now you assume I stare at AFK characters. Cute. Don't you just know everything? Thank you, o' wise one.
You're right, AFK characters have absolutely 0 impact on the server. You got me! Boy, how silly am I?
Rendering 30 active characters as compared to 30 active + 80 AFK makes no difference.

You sir, win the day. Enjoy! Obvious brick wall, so my job is done here.

-Flies away-

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how ELSE do you know someone is afk for more then the 30mins afk timer unless you ARE sitting there staring at them for more then 30mins?

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the server is DESIGNED to render ALL those characters, afk or not, and server load is just FINE otherwise you would not be able to LOG IN because the server load would be at MAX!!!

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Originally Posted by Swishytail

So now you assume I stare at AFK characters. Cute. Don't you just know everything? Thank you, o' wise one.
You're right, AFK characters have absolutely 0 impact on the server. You got me! Boy, how silly am I?
Rendering 30 active characters as compared to 30 active + 80 AFK makes no difference.

You sir, win the day. Enjoy! Obvious brick wall, so my job is done here.

-Flies away-

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You obviously didn't understand him. If you have afks around you , that means you are not doing anything productive either as you no reason to be where afks are standing.

I have yet to login without a Queue, several servers are still at max capacity and people circumventing the afk timer is contributing to the capacity problem.

I get why people do it, why wait any amount of time you don't have to right? I don't like waiting either. Unfortunately that's also why the game systems have to be modified to ensure game stability since us western gamers are notorious for only looking out for number 1, everyone else is everyone else's problem.

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Originally Posted by Evumeimei

People seriously can't wait a few minutes to log on when they get home from work or whatever real life stuff they were doing? Really?

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It's amazing, but yes, there are some people who cannot be bothered to wait even a single minute to login to a game, at least not willingly, and don't care who else they might be affecting by their actions. :(

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Originally Posted by Crica

i read your whole post - it said you are upset the server is full of characters to render that would be rendered even if ppl are not afk - so i told you to go play the game since you can log in just fine instead of staring at afk characters being rendered (but you are fine with staring at playing characters being rendered???)

pretty fun solution, dont you agree? /shrug

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If people are AFK it is because they are not currently playing. If they were logged out, their characters would not have to be rendered, thus creating less lag, etc. for other players. It's that simple. Why do people even need to be logged in AFK for hours? People keep aksing why others care, but what I want to know is why people do it in the first place if they are going to be gone for a long while... I don't get it...

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Originally Posted by Jayrune

I get why people do it, why wait any amount of time you don't have to right? I don't like waiting either. Unfortunately that's also why the game systems have to be modified to ensure game stability since us western gamers are notorious for only looking out for number 1, everyone else is everyone else's problem.

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People seriously can't wait a few minutes to log on when they get home from work or whatever real life stuff they were doing? Really?

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Originally Posted by Amberion

So... People with poor PC spec will now blame other people instead of themselves? I have not had any issues with rendering characters, and even if I did, I would not blame that on other players.

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Okay, fair point. It's not a problem I personally have, anyways. I just think that if you are not playing you should just log out. I don't see the merit of staying logged into a game if you are not playing it or why people try so hard to find ways to stay in-game AFK when a timer is implemented.

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Originally Posted by Crica

Because they paid for the game and want to.

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This way of thinking is so perplexing to me. 0__0 It's not like being AFK in a game makes you get your money's worth. That only comes with the time you actually spend playing.

Anyways, I've given my two cents on the matter already.

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Originally Posted by Jayrune

It's amazing, but yes, there are some people who cannot be bothered to wait even a single minute to login to a game, at least not willingly, and don't care who else they might be affecting by their actions. :(

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I don't doubt that it happens. I guess I'll just never really get it. Honestly, people being AFK doesn't really bother me all that much. It's the mentality surrounding it that bugs me more. Ah well, the servers are stable for now, and people will continue to do what they want, I suppose.

So... People with poor PC spec will now blame other people instead of themselves? I have not had any issues with rendering characters, and even if I did, I would not blame that on other players.

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Originally Posted by Evumeimei

Why do people even need to be logged in AFK for hours?

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Because they paid for the game and want to.



Why do ppl even need to play the game for hours? Because they paid for the game and want to.

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Originally Posted by Thotor

You obviously didn't understand him. If you have afks around you , that means you are not doing anything productive either as you no reason to be where afks are standing.

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I haven't run into this issue, so this is a hypothetical, but...

If we've established that talking to an NPC or interacting with an object is a confirmed way to go AFK and avoid the kick timer, and that exploit becomes the preferred way for people to do just that, it can become extremely frustrating for people who have legitimate use for that NPC or object to actually interact with it in an optimal environment due to lag and rendering issues aggravated by throngs of idle characters crowding around a single point in an area.

Like I said, aside from the summoning bells in the markets, which are an issue and are being addressed (not likely related to AFKers, but actual in-game use, however), I haven't seen this anywhere else. I'm just saying that I can see a similar issue developing in popular sanctuaries if the user base that wants to go AFK for an extended period of time increases past a certain point. Is it high priority problem? No. But I think if Square really wants to stick to their guns with this kick timer, they should probably quash the workarounds to avoid it. Either go all in, or take it out.

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Originally Posted by Crica

first of all, how do you know someone is afking for more then the thirty min timer without sitting there and staring at them for more then 30mins?

secondly, if you are, do you not have ANYTHING better to do in the game besides sitting there staring at AFK ppl for more then 30mins?

thirdly, if you can log into the game just FINE anytime you want, why do you even care if someone is afk for more then 30mins? You tired of sitting there staring at them for more then 30mins? Then go play the game!

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This. So this. Most of this community is starting to remind me of an HOA. Just a bunch of nosy busybodies.

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Originally Posted by Xiozen

I've noticed (counted at least 20 players in game) quite a few players going AFK "while in the process of synthesis"... in other words, they've assumed the synthesis position, kneeling, using tools to begin synthesis or are in mid-synthesis and just stay that way...for hours...

A way to circumvent the auto-log-out? Because that's what it looks like to me...just sayin'.

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Something odd happened yesterday. I was browsing the forums and caught the auto-logout countdown, 20 seconds, and cancelled it. About 45 minutes later I left for an interview, they messed up and it ended up taking 3 hours. But when I came back, I was still logged-in standing around in Limsa. I wonder?