Getting bored of Grindfest and lack of people doing dungeons nowdays

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Originally Posted by rabbitzero

You do know the dungeon scales your level, right? I forget the exact amount, but you get scaled down to a couple levels, i think 18 at most for Sastasha. The gear is the same that drops, but it says even on the screen what level you will be scaled to.

And yes, they did say more dungeons soon even, there is a raid that is supposed to be placed before Coil, and another soon (one two content patches, so november?)

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I understand it does that but I really dislike it. If I took the time to level and learn all those cool skills I want to be able to use them. Not have them taken from me because of scaling and such...

I'm just hoping they make a difficulty system so we can play say Sastasha on level 40 or something. That would be so cool (imo)

It's not exactly just one way. Even I, as a WHM am finding problems with getting DF to work in my favor. 20+ minutes to get queued for a dungeon (and the DF utility is reporting no DD or tank matches either?)

I'm 46, and the only FATE grinding I did was roughly 36-40. Even then, that was only because I was in Coerthas and felt like giving this whole FATE grinding thing a go. Once I got bored with it (which was fast), I moved on to other things. I still do FATEs as I run into them, but I haven't had to grind anything thus far.

Frankly, I don't understand why people are leveling more than one class if they don't enjoy the leveling up process (FATE or solo). I mean, I haven't seen anything in the game that suggests this is necessary as of yet, so why bother? The only perk to leveling up all the jobs is an Achievement.

There's so much stuff to do in this game. Explore, do side quests, hunting/crafting logs, Grand Company stuff, etc. If something isn't to your liking (FATE grinding), and you haven't tried the other aspects of the game, I would put forward that the error is not with the game, but one's choice of activity within it.

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Originally Posted by BlaineCraner

Is it really so hard for you guys just to get to know some people and play with them? No wonder I never see ANY conversations in the game chat’s. =/

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The game is kinda easy at the beginning.
I feel like the game held your hand a bit like they done did in GW2. Why do that then you can duty finder? Luckily they didn't go full GW2.
GW2 hold your friggin' hand all your life absolute zero need for communication.
Luckily, having a neat group in this game works and it's fun to know your FC.
You hope the game gets harder at the end so more people start making FC and stuff. It's fun too!
Joina FC. X)

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Originally Posted by DiasFlac

Anyone know if the cap will be raised from 50? I'm level 36 but just wondering. I also hope they have more dungeons planned and a difficulty system so we can make them harder. This will be nice for the old dungeons.

Say I wanna do Sastasha at level 30 but I cant cuz its stuck at level 15 or something.

Reposted :-(
anyone care to answer please

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They will have HARD / EXTREME versions of dungeons, also if you sign up for the Level 15 version, you are automatically level synched upon entry.

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Originally Posted by Johnist

They will have HARD / EXTREME versions of dungeons, also if you sign up for the Level 15 version, you are automatically level synched upon entry.

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Yeah I know how the whole level syncing thing works. I'm just saying its a feature I myself do not like. I want to be able to use the fun new skills I've learned through my leveling but be able to use them even on older dungeons such as Sastasha for example.

A hard or extreme version of the lower level dungeons would be great. I also hope they up the level cap at some point. I'll probably be level 50 by the end of this month and I'm not sure if I'll be finding the game enjoyable after I cap. I mean I know there other things to do but something about reaching the cap just ends MMO's for me. (I don't rush level by any means)

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Originally Posted by DiasFlac

Yeah I know how the whole level syncing thing works. I'm just saying its a feature I myself do not like. I want to be able to use the fun new skills I've learned through my leveling but be able to use them even on older dungeons such as Sastasha for example.

A hard or extreme version of the lower level dungeons would be great. I also hope they up the level cap at some point. I'll probably be level 50 by the end of this month and I'm not sure if I'll be finding the game enjoyable after I cap. I mean I know there other things to do but something about reaching the cap just ends MMO's for me. (I don't rush level by any means)

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Getting only one Class to 50... that's easy. Getting them all to 50, that's the challenge. Not just do you have to master each role, but it is a community growth process.

I myself am taking the time I have and am spreading my character around multiple classes...

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Originally Posted by BlaiseArath

combat Leves. DoH/DoL are really nice... I just didn't have enough room to specify that due to the 1k Character Limit ;;

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Ah, the dreaded limit. Just edit the post and you'll be able to add as much text as you want. ^^

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Originally Posted by CatholicFan

Frankly, I don't understand why people are leveling more than one class if they don't enjoy the leveling up process (FATE or solo). I mean, I haven't seen anything in the game that suggests this is necessary as of yet, so why bother? The only perk to leveling up all the jobs is an Achievement.

There's so much stuff to do in this game. Explore, do side quests, hunting/crafting logs, Grand Company stuff, etc. If something isn't to your liking (FATE grinding), and you haven't tried the other aspects of the game, I would put forward that the error is not with the game, but one's choice of activity within it.

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That's my whole point. WHY do people subject themselves to leveling up a class they won't need in a teeth grinding way? Forcing yourself to a boring, monotonous experience that's just busy work just to hear the victory fanfare. It's ridiculous if not pathetic. Even more so if they whine about it here. "Oh, the grinding is so hard and boring" - then why don't you stop, dumbass! People could be doing anything, just ANYTHING instead of wasting their time on a grinding activity. If you done everything there is to do, then why not giving the game a rest? Why not wait a little for the game's new content patch?
No, people have to grind up more like it's their life's purpose or something.
Even if they don't really need it to enjoy the game.

Dungeons are packed at higher levels so much so you have a full party in the duty finder but have to wait for a slot opens in the actual server. Most of my FC spam dungeons instead of FATES purely because its a good way to get/make gil.

The game will get harder. This is only the beginning.

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Originally Posted by Leafcore

You wait 30 mins not because people are not doing dungeons. In fact there are TONS of people doing dungeons. It's because there only so many people are wiling to take the responsibility of being a tank or a healer. So basically the entire servers waits their turn to play with a tank and heals.

This happens in all MMOs.

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This.

And some of us, well - given the rudeness of PUGs and how they all want speedruns... if my Company mates are online, you aren't likely to get me for your tank. Nor a lot of other tanks either.

So everytime you see a PUGly with an attitude... even if its your PUG tank - know that half your wait was because of a lack of tanks and healers, and half of it was because the tanks and healers that do exist don't usually want to deal with that rude person...

I did see some people standing midway between sastasha and the town right next to it for almost all of Sunday. Well, I was doing story quests and the dungeon there, and there was a FATE group always there... I'm just assuming it was the same people since anytime a FATE wasn't going on, a stack of them were just standing still...

Some people like to find the most boring way possible to play an MMO... and then complain about it. I was having a blast running through all the quests there. I and about 1/4th of the people there... the other 3/4ths were just standing around and spamming shout with requests to join a FATE group.

I saw those people in almost every new MMO since WoW's Burning Crusade came out... and they always give up after claiming the game sucks inside of 3 to 6 months, if not sooner... Really strange way to game, to set oneself up for disappointment like that.

If you don't want to be one of them, you have to get into a goof Free Company, or learn to be a PUG tank or PUG healer... or well... do the quests.