AF+1 Costs WAY Too Much

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Originally Posted by GilbertLapine

Hard to say. It's only been 4 weeks since early access, so technically it has only been possible to make 1200 mythology tomestones. Since Faerie isn't legacy, its really unlikely anyone's gotten that many (given at least a few days to clear story and get 50). Might have one or two pieces, however, if they got the 900 tomestones from starting the week after EA.

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In the first two weeks there were bugs with the weekly cap for the mythstones. SE ended up resetting the cap in the middle of the week once or twice in the process of ironing out the problem so anyone willing to farm them could have doubled their normal weekly allotment.

Personally, I don't think that the crime is the time it takes to farm. Nobody NEEDS that gear. DL is more than capable for most of the content.

My real beef is this: AK is the only way to farm myth tokens.

The farmable endgame content in ARR is basically one single 4-man dungeon that drops gear that is completely inferior to all token gear. That's just bad planning and bad game design.

If we had more than AK to keep us occupied, and if level 50 content offered at least some RNG chance to get competent filler gear on par with the token gear (even DL, let alone AF2) then the AF2 grind wouldn't look nearly as bad as it does right now. Problem is all this game is offering at the moment is that AF2 grind. I sincerely hope Yoshida doesn't expect people to sub just to run AK 8 times a week. I know I won't be.

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Originally Posted by NefarioCall

I'd rather just craft iLvL70 HQ gear and put materia on it...
i can do that right?

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You need coke/lime sulphur/aqueous whetstones or other equivalents to make any ilvl 70 gear, and those require tomes >.>

You can always buy them if you have a spare million or two gil lying around (per piece of gear). Actually idk if people are even selling the mats on the AH on non-legacy servers yet. You might have to wait a while.

So, you can't be fully uber geared after two weeks, boo hoo.

You know that an MMO is made for playing over time right?

The next content isn't due before november, so obviously SE made it a grind for those of you that rushes to endgame for the gear. Most people are still enjoying leveling the many classes and jobs, you are in the few.

The funny thing is, even if you were fully geared you would be complaining about being bored, there's no way to make players like you happy.

Well in 2 months new content (raid is introduced). Since FFXIV is following the typical generic endgame gear MMO grind expect current gear requirements to get nerfed and they introduce new tomestones gear sets to farm for in preparation for crystal tower. Get rdy for the QQ's then.

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Originally Posted by Eldaena

I'm glad everyone posting has so much stamina to do the same thing over and over again. At least SE should give us some other dungeons. I'm already to the point of falling asleep in AK because it is that boring. That's not HARDCORE, it's just a grind. If we're gonna grind at least keep it interesting SE. I don't care if it takes 5 months to get it, but doing the same thing is just stale. I think people might have a better chance of getting all the gear in bahamut's coil in 5 months though, so I'm not even sure if the AF+1 is worth it...

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How much is "over and over again?"

I'm interested to know what the "Goldilocks zone" is between content that doesn't engage you very long versus content that forces you to stay engaged with it over a long period of time. How long is "long"? How much is "engagement" with the dungeon? Should there be more tangible rewards, and if so what? Should there be rewards other than trash drops (bits of bone, hide, etc.) or gil?

i just want af+1 because a lot of darklight is ugly

It is quite a commitment and I have resigned to the fact that I won't be able to keep up with the people who play all day everyday. But at the same time, you are assuming SE won't add any content in the future that will award more stones. They could add more dungeons in patches, or even the dailies that they are going to add soon could help alleviate the cost, which would render your math inaccurate. Sidenote if I can just get 2-3 pieces of af+1 I'd be happy.

On the subject of only AK to keep us occupied at 50...yeah, it was pretty foolish to have sooooo many leveling dungeons that people run like once and then forget about, with only AK that anyone wants to run at 50. I wouldn't mind heroic modes and maybe a daily heroic quest to get extra stones.

I like the cost of AF2, it makes me have something to look forward to, gives me a reason to log on, and ensures I don't beat the game in a weekend/month. MMO's need ways to keep players playing(especially monthly sub MMO's), the content is fun even for the 500th time for me so I don't mind at all.

And your proposed alternative is let people get what they want in a few weeks and then unsub because there's nothing to do?