Fate Grinding is Lame

As sad as it is... it is the fastest and most efficient way to level.

Due to this it breeds terrible level 50 players who are used to spamming aoe and doing 1 single move to get free points. Hopefully SE fixes dungeons to have more "incentive" to make players feel welcomed to actually do them while leveling. (Besides the obvious story ones.)

I agree with Resetting Quests for a new Class ! I Ran out of Quests right now and i am Level 25 on my 2nd Class :/

FATE Grind is directly connected to the fact that there's so many fingerless lv50 guys, who doest'n learned the mechanics of the game.

FC Drunken FATE Parties are seriously the best thing ever.

Everybody gets plastered, gets XP and gets GC seals, and we goof off and have fun. If FATEs were any harder, this would be impossible to do!

Fates are spammed because SE didn't really provide any other means to get EXP on your other classes. Dungeons are okay-ish, but since the majority plays DPS the queues are horrendous unless you're tanking or healing. The non-story sidequests are okay, but they're not really great on their own and dry up eventually. Battle Leves? These things are worthless, they give a paltry amount of exp, which is ridiculous since you dont get that many allowances.

The only *REAL* source of consistent EXP in the game for your other classes, comes from fates. SE needs to take a look at stuff like making Battle Leves actually give a meaningful amount of exp, possibly buffing dungeon EXP, and allowing Guildhests to be done at full EXP on other classes besides the first (though limiting the gil to the first time clear is probably a good idea). Until SE makes changes to the other leveling methods, people are going to continue to spam FATES.

Nerfing FATES without buffing the other methods would not be advisable.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

I'd blame the gap in content after you hit Coerthas. You can do every quest in the zone and still barely get a level out of it, much less do the push to lv 40. Your options at that point are leves, FATE and dungeons. Dragonhead happens to be surrounded by FATEs, making it alot easier to get to them (unlike places like Mor Dhona and Outer La Noscea, where some FATEs are somewhat out of the way).

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indeed
before Coerthas, i was pretty much 5-7 levels above my main story quest and side quests
it's because i did almost every side quests in each region as every region has its own side quest from level 1-35
however, after 35, we have no other region of choice besides Coerthas
after i hit Coerthas, my level slowly get closer and closer to my main story quest, then it finally overlap my level
that's the point when i had no other choice but to do Fate grinds..

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Originally Posted by Stormsoul

The only *REAL* source of consistent EXP in the game for your other classes, comes from fates. SE needs to take a look at stuff like making Battle Leves actually give a meaningful amount of exp, possibly buffing dungeon EXP, and allowing Guildhests to be done at full EXP on other classes besides the first (though limiting the gil to the first time clear is probably a good idea). Until SE makes changes to the other leveling methods, people are going to continue to spam FATES.

Nerfing FATES without buffing the other methods would not be advisable.

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If I remember from beta, the thing with leves is that you start seeing benefits with you leve-link. I did a good chunk of leveling without quests by just leve-linking with the guy I ran into in east shroud during beta 2. The problem is that, as you said, leve allowances aren't exactly plentiful.

Based on that, I have a feeling that we were expected to group up for leves rather than for FATE.

i must agree, FATEs in this game are pretty pathetic, even the ones that are supposed to be special huge events like behemoth are just run in and spam whatever

RIFT already existed before arr and has basically the same mechanic but way better in nearly every aspect. Just seems so weird to take such a huge step back

But why are people in a hurry to level is the issue, they are rushing to 50 and then what?

Grind fates again for a second 50, etc?

FATEs are far too easy, and are obviously a bad design in terms of how they allow players to bypass lots of content quickly.
This in turn means it takes much shorter to level up a class/job, meaning people are finished earlier. It should be in SEs interest to reduce levelling speed, but they have access to those metrics, and apparently are okay with it, since it wouldnt take much effort to reduce FATE exp at all
The major problem is that FATES give very little money, and classes arent entirely brainless to play in higher level content, leading to a lot of frustrated players in a few days or weeks time, broke from repairs and out of money unless they backtrack the quest path. it also leads to a MAJOR issue I have noticed: Insanely bad players in dungeons which are not storyline gated.
I believe nerfing FATE xp by 40-50% would still make it a VERY viable path for levelling