As a SMN, is it worth using Thunder?

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Originally Posted by Orophin

Is there some gap during casting SMN's various abilities that you would throw Thunder in there? I personally haven't played ACN much so it's just been confusing that a cross classed spell for DPS would be worthwhile to use.

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You could replace a ruin cast with thunder. Not sure if it's worth it though.

Seeing as I'm new to the class then is it safe to assume that

Bio II > Miasma > Bio > Fester/Bane > Thunder

is "the" rotation? Based on the masses?

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Originally Posted by Fliknboogers

Seeing as I'm new to the class then is it safe to assume that

Bio II > Miasma > Bio > Fester/Bane > Thunder

is "the" rotation? Based on the masses?

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Pretty much. Here's a variation of it for better dmg whenever those cooldowns are up.

Raging Strikes > Bio II > Miasma > Bio > Fester/Bane > Thunder > Contagion/Shining Emerald

See my rotation is:

Obey > RS > Bio II > Miasma > Thunder > Bio > Fester/Bane/contagion

Something i been thinking about is Miasma II. Seeing as Misasma II is instant cast, could i not do:

Obey > RS > Bio II > Miasma > Thunder > Bio > Fester/Bane > Miasma II > contagion

or simply time permitting

Obey > RS > Bio II > Miasma > Thunder > Bio > Miasma II > Fester/Bane/contagion - Though i fear with this, i will be losing a Fester from the GCD?

I usually cast Shadowflare after this rotation, i save Swiftcast for Raise. Someone always goes down in the worst possible times usually lol

Any thoughts?

Fester only counts the "primary 3" for damage, is therefore capped at 300 potency, and should never be delayed as you will miss out on having 2 festers inside an RS.

The opening rotation should be something like

Obey | RS -> Bio II -> Miasma -> Bio | Fester -> Thunder -> Miasma II | Contagion | Swiftcast -> Shadowflare -> Ruin II | Fester.

I only swiftcast the first shadowflare, because frankly, if someone dies less than 1 minute into the fight, you shouldn't be doing that fight lol, and it might not be worth recovering.

Contagion does not require a animation delay, it happens immediately as you give the order (however long your egi decides to take to actually do the order, is another matter), so you can fit in a swiftcast and then immediately shadowflare.

My thinking process is, have swiftcast up to react to failure, but do not plan for failure. So I swiftcast the RS, but keep it afterwards.

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Originally Posted by pandabearcat

I only swiftcast the first shadowflare, because frankly, if someone dies less than 1 minute into the fight, you shouldn't be doing that fight lol

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titan HM duty Finder says helloooooo lol

And yeah i know it counts for the 3 primary, guess it makes sense. Of course what i need now is for SE to increase Aetherlow to over 9000 charges xD Fest/Bane/Energy Drain spam GO!