F'lhaminn

You know, the whole pupils thing never made sense to me. If they have cat's eyes, then the pupils would become slits at day and round at night. If you ask me, it would be epic for both clans have those eyes and see them change when entering dark areas.

@Catapult: I keep reading your name in that doodle as "that iceblond" xD

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

@Catapult: I keep reading your name in that doodle as "that iceblond" xD

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/snortlaugh

Ohhh... kay.... >_>

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

You know, the whole pupils thing never made sense to me. If they have cat's eyes, then the pupils would become slits at day and round at night. If you ask me, it would be epic for both clans have those eyes and see them change when entering dark areas.

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I used to have it backwards. I thought the Seekers of the Sun had the round pupils because they were evolved to handle more light, whereas the Keepers of the Moon adapted to limit their light intake. But I suppose the other way around makes just as much sense. Keepers of the Moon sleep during the day because they can't handle the light, whereas Seekers of the Sun sleep at night because they can't see as well in the dark. Unfortunately for Keepers, the rest of Eorzea makes heavy use of lamps and flashy magic.

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Originally Posted by Yrusama

I used to have it backwards. I thought the Seekers of the Sun had the round pupils because they were evolved to handle more light, whereas the Keepers of the Moon adapted to limit their light intake. But I suppose the other way around makes just as much sense. Keepers of the Moon sleep during the day because they can't handle the light, whereas Seekers of the Sun sleep at night because they can't see as well in the dark. Unfortunately for Keepers, the rest of Eorzea makes heavy use of lamps and flashy magic.

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The reason pupils are large in nocturnal creatures is because they allow more light into the eye. The photodetecting cells of the retina can only be so efficient, so the greater capacity to collect light at any given instant through a larger aperture helps to make up for this sensitivity limit by boosting the amount of information that would otherwise be received in low light conditions. It's the same reason telescopes are built as huge as possible, to see fainter stuff.

So yes, it absolutely makes sense this way :P A poor Keeper with fully dilated pupils walking around in the daytime would be about as happy as walking out of an eye exam after getting those glaucoma drops and not having any sunglasses...

I would just like to point out the power of the wiki in this instance. Sure they are not 100% accurate 100% of the time, but the power of the masses and multiple editors generally works itself out eventually.

Interestingly enough, in this particular instance the confusion was also reflected. Originally the page was created without a clan. Then along comes a user and adds her to the moon clan, which was thereafter changed to the sun clan.

Again, this doesn't prove anything of course. But it's interesting to me that the same confusion was visible in the article's history - and that it came out right in the end.

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

If you ask me, it would be epic for both clans have those eyes and see them change when entering dark areas.

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This would be really neat.

hmmmm...
so... that means currently on Final fantasy XIV.com that art for Roegadyn will be sort of correct again?
I always angry about the art people put the Seawolf they shown there has black nose tip and hellsguard no black nose tip.
But /cough, I don't think you can make a Seawolf with black nose tip...all the cuties have black nose tips, so it's important!

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

Finally, some good news for our role-players who want a little more spice in their character's history--in character creation for ARR, we'll be allowing the mixing and matching of certain features between clans, so it will be possible to create a Keeper of the Moon-like Seeker of the Sun (or vice versa).

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Holy snurble slipper!
This probably the best news for character creation!!!

Does it applies to other races as well? Like Lalafell for example? *wink wink*

I'm just so excited right now, woohoo! I need to get me hands on a character creator with these features asap...
*puts on ninja costume*

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Originally Posted by Myranda

The reason pupils are large in nocturnal creatures is because they allow more light into the eye. The photodetecting cells of the retina can only be so efficient, so the greater capacity to collect light at any given instant through a larger aperture helps to make up for this sensitivity limit by boosting the amount of information that would otherwise be received in low light conditions. It's the same reason telescopes are built as huge as possible, to see fainter stuff.

So yes, it absolutely makes sense this way :P A poor Keeper with fully dilated pupils walking around in the daytime would be about as happy as walking out of an eye exam after getting those glaucoma drops and not having any sunglasses...

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With this in mind, it would be neat if Miqo'te type enemies (there are some in Garlemald, plus there were poachers in 1.0) show some variance in which blind-inducing spells are more potent. Flash would work better on a Keeper of the Moon, whereas a blindness spell that limits light intake would work better on a Seeker of the Sun. They probably won't incorporate this, but it would be an interesting factor.

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

Finally, some good news for our role-players who want a little more spice in their character's history--in character creation for ARR, we'll be allowing the mixing and matching of certain features between clans, so it will be possible to create a Keeper of the Moon-like Seeker of the Sun (or vice versa).

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Awesome news Ferne!
I can't wait to get a Fanged Seeker ;~;