Primal weapons: to upgrade or not?

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

I don't know why everyone always wants their old shit to be upgradable. How is that different from (and better than) just getting something new that's better? We know there will eventually be a cap increase, so my advice is don't get too attached to your lv50 gear.

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But..but it took me like FOREVER to get some of it...

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Originally Posted by Meatdawg

But..but it took me like FOREVER to get some of it...

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And it will take just as much forever to upgrade it, you can be sure of that.

Nobody complains when they have to ditch their level 30 gear for level 40 gear, or 40 for 50, etc... so why is it suddenly different when the level cap is increased?

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

And it will take just as much forever to upgrade it, you can be sure of that.

Nobody complains when they have to ditch their level 30 gear for level 40 gear, or 40 for 50, etc... so why is it suddenly different when the level cap is increased?

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I agree the only thing that would have a upgrade that yoshi-p said was relics. He said one day your Curtana would become a Excalibur. But i also see them doing that for primal weps like releasing a new battle for them at higher level with a upgrade version of the wep or some way to upgrade them.

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Originally Posted by Meatdawg

But..but it took me like FOREVER to get some of it...

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I can assure you they will make upgrading relics just as hard if not much harder than actually getting them.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

And it will take just as much forever to upgrade it, you can be sure of that.

Nobody complains when they have to ditch their level 30 gear for level 40 gear, or 40 for 50, etc... so why is it suddenly different when the level cap is increased?

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It took me 10 minutes to get level 40 gear?

It took me 200+ ifirt kills to get them all
It took me 100+ moogle kills to get them all
It took me 100+ garuda kills to get them all
It took me 1000+ runs for DL
It took me 2 months for all relics

I don't think they compare

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Originally Posted by Meatdawg

It took me 10 minutes to get level 40 gear?

It took me 200+ ifirt kills to get them all
It took me 100+ moogle kills to get them all
It took me 100+ garuda kills to get them all
It took me 1000+ runs for DL
It took me 2 months for all relics

I don't think they compare

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I get what you're saying, but it's kind of unfair to compare those examples to anything that's in ARR since droprates were made terrible on purpose to extend the content until they could put out something new.

Bosses are going to be guaranteed to drop something every win, regardless if it's something you want. People are going to get geared up much faster and you'll probably have less longing to hold onto gear as new stuff comes out.

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Originally Posted by Meatdawg

It took me 10 minutes to get level 40 gear?

It took me 200+ ifirt kills to get them all
It took me 100+ moogle kills to get them all
It took me 100+ garuda kills to get them all
It took me 1000+ runs for DL
It took me 2 months for all relics

I don't think they compare

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Superweapons e.g. relics are a reasonable exception to the rule, but anything else... There will be new higher level primal battles and such. Why spend 1000 ifrit kills or whatever BS you have to go through to upgrade your ifrit weapon when you can just get a Titan weapon? The only real reason to me to demand upgrades is vanity- you like the look of the weapon better and want to keep using it. Beyond that, having everything upgradable is silly- As we progress through levels, gear should change along with it- it's supposed to be one of the perks of reaching a new level- getting new gear.

Also, I don't really are how long it took you to get ALL of the weapons. You aren't actually going to use ALL of the moogle/ifrit/garuda weapons. You only got the others for the sake of collecting them all. it doesn't take that much effort to get just one.

Really- what's the difference between doing 1023452 somethings to upgrade your darklight vs doing 1023452 somethings to get a new piece of gear?

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Originally Posted by Orophin

I get what you're saying, but it's kind of unfair to compare those examples to anything that's in ARR since droprates were made terrible on purpose to extend the content until they could put out something new.

Bosses are going to be guaranteed to drop something every win, regardless if it's something you want. People are going to get geared up much faster and you'll probably have less longing to hold onto gear as new stuff comes out.

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Will from what yoshi-p said i think your right even if you don't get anything let's say 30 runs. Yoshi-p said he want to add a system where if you not lucky enough to get a item like darklight you get a lower stats of darklight as reward so even casual players would be gear up.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

All primal would be Roaming around Eorzea because your FC/LS can have one primal under your control. He give said once you find a primal there a way for you and your team mates would be teleport into the primal instance. He said if you win the fight you have a primal under your control for a set amount of time example he give was two weeks. You also have to fill in a bar that you also have a limit amount of time to fill or the primal is release he did not say what you have to do to fill the bar up i'm guessing we know later on. They would be weather effects once a primal is summon and something saying LS/FC have summon "Primal Name". I'm really hoping for ifrit and such they be red sky and ash falling :)

He also said stuff like you can control who can summon the primal in your fc/ls and also summon primal in PVP battle if you like. Also you need a set amount of people to summon them i'm guessing so let's say your the last person standing you summon a primal and kill the boss due to the fact that it's at 10-15% or something. Also once you summon the primal you have a timer when you can go get other primal not sure if he mean your allow to get a different one or if you just not allow to get any other primal to that time is up.

I'm guessing odin would be allow to be under our control seeing how he a elder primal and he get stronger each time he is killed in battle. But ya every primal would be roaming in FFXIV you just got to go out there and find them and get them under your control :)

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Well I wonder if you have to be a summoner or have a summoner in your FC to be able to summon your primal or if anyone as a result of having defeated said primal can summon it?

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Originally Posted by Allesasi

Well I wonder if you have to be a summoner or have a summoner in your FC to be able to summon your primal or if anyone as a result of having defeated said primal can summon it?

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Maybe the bar is like LB where you use all that power and send it to the summoner so they can summon the primal. But or maybe anyone for that matter it make more sense if you need a few summoner to summon him. Look at the beastmen themself it take more then one them to summon a primal and a lot of power from the crystals.

guess we have to wait and see what they do.