A Socio-Cultural Analysis of Garlean Genocide *spoilers*

Really interesting read and I'd love to see more of these.
We need a website devoted to keeping FFXIV lore, unless there's already one.

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Originally Posted by Erana

Really interesting read and I'd love to see more of these.
We need a website devoted to keeping FFXIV lore, unless there's already one.

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the ffxiv wiki is what should be handling this but it kinda got ignored once people found out 1.0 would die. I'm sure that when 2.0 comes out it will pick up speed again

Speaking of lore i would like to know who summoned Midgarsormr to fight back the empire ships in the 1.0 intro and what were dragons doing way south from their homeland north of Ishgard :)

I honestly feel that this is one of the best threads I've browsed through since starting XIV. Great job, guys.

Awesome thread, I always love diving into the lore and trying to connect all of the relevant bits together. My friend has been trying to speculate what Garlemald's next move will be, with the whole numbered legions paying fanservice to FF titles thing (Meteor from FF7 for VIIth Legion etc.). Personally I think it'd be a good idea to make a nice compilation of the current lore up to this point in the game, especially for those who haven't been playing.

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Originally Posted by Erana

Really interesting read and I'd love to see more of these.
We need a website devoted to keeping FFXIV lore, unless there's already one.

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I suggest taking a look at the localisation forums. Fernehawles and the rest of the English localisation team respond to loc-bugs there, but also drop the occasional lore bomb. Given that they have to translate the story and all its intricacies, they are far more in touch with the lore than the average dev or rep.

Anonymoose, our biggest resident XIV lore-geek (I mean that as a compliment) also hangs out there and we can end up in some very interesting discussions from time to time.

Gaius van Baelsar is overseeing Ala Mhigo currently. He controls it as Viceroy. I think Ala Mhigo is technically part of Eorzea, so they already have a foothold here. Same with Sharlayan. There are a lot of sections we can't reach yet.

I don't think the Empire sees the Primals so much as a threat. They are more of an obstacle in their conquest. As for "racism", it's sort of hard to call it that when the Empire itself has all 5 of the same races. The level 50s are predominately blonde, but there are enough black haired ones to throw the notion of Genocide out the window. Dalamud's use on Eorzea can be labeled as nothing more complex than "conquest".

Nael van Darnus mentioned that the world has lost the light of the Crystal. He sought to purify all, probably more than just Eorzea. That sort of devastation falls in the "mass extinction" category.

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Originally Posted by Siegtaru

...with the whole numbered legions paying fanservice to FF titles thing (Meteor from FF7 for VIIth Legion etc.).

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Interestingly enough, they take this further with the third 'United We Stand' cut-scene wherein you get the nice Sephiroth-style close up of Nael amidst the ceruleum flames.

For those who want to compare, the following is the link to Crisis Core's representation of the infamous Nibelheim incident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw3j1Ptswog

And this is the link to the scene in which SE pays a fan-service tribute to Sephiroth in FFXIV via Nael van Darnus (Note: skip to 3:14 for the correct part of the scene): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mahXN9_AMHI

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Originally Posted by Fatestorm

Great analysis. A note:

It's a riddle! Before the events with the reformation of the Grand Companies, I actually thought that Dalamud was Garlemald's own "primal"--obviously I was wrong. ;) My own pet theory now is that Dalamud is a prison device created by the ancient Allagan Empire to imprison Bahamut... but I suppose time will tell!

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Congratulation, I'm impressed, seriously, you found the twist.

Thanks! XD

I'm so excited about this. It's hard not to throw a tantrum about wanting FFXIV:ARR NAO! haha.

There are still a ton of questions--like why was Bahamut imprisoned in the first place? If Dalamud has *something* to do with the Ancient Allagan Empire (the Empire started its first Meteor Project at Bozja Citadel when it realized that its investigation into Allagan technology was causing reactions from Dalamud), what is the precise relation? How do the Twelve relate to the Ancient Allagan Empire, in that it seems that Louisoix tries to 're-create' a Dalamud-like prison with the power of the Twelve? When it fails, what fails? Is it the power of the Twelve that fails, or Louisoix's attempt to channel their power?

I still need time to think about all this! haha.