PLD Gear?

Just... leave it. You won't change minds up in here. Already tried lol

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Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn

Just... leave it. You won't change minds up in here. Already tried lol

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You learn quickly that on any public forum (literal and figurative) that you should put forth information not for the vocal minority, but the silent majority who read, who visit and who try to learn. Trying to change people's mind on any public setting is difficult for a wide variety of reasons. The fact that it appears the wide majority of forum posters and those of the vocal minority suffer quite heavily from the Dunning-Kruger and Backfire effect simultaneously is one of the main deterrents of open, intellectual conversation.

As you may say, "ur doin it rong" if you try to change the mind of any person suffering from those cognitive pitfalls that every person can fall into regardless of socioeconomic/geographical position. Instead more people should post for those who read but don't get involved, that's the majority of the people who will see these posts. They're the ones who are most helped.

I wholeheartedly agree, and that is a major driving force behind what I post. It is disheartening however when those in the wrong attack new threads liker rabid dogs, spewing false informaiton. In my experience, OPs look for their answer in the first page of posts and do not often revisit their threads for further clarification. To that end the damage is already done and my back-and-forth banter with others go unseen by the very person seeking help initially. Still, it doesn't stop me from posting or righting the wrongs here. No one can do it on their own though and others do need to step up and start doing their part for the greater good too.

Thank you for the response.

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Originally Posted by Stufoo

Stop posting when you only believe stuff, that's your problem. VIT is both physical and magical, Defense is not magical that's what resistance is for and why there's an entire subsection of materia called elemental veil. Do you have any clue how this game works? Why would they need an extra trait on protect to lower magical damage as well if defense (what you get from protect) mitigated it in the first place?

Stop posting.

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maybe you should stop posting why do you get such a high by bashing other ppls opinion's serioysly i thought the bashing thread was on some other site

Aceofspades thread

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...not_f=true&f=6

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...true&f=19_1300

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Originally Posted by Brannigan

Aceofspades thread

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...not_f=true&f=6

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...true&f=19_1300

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sorry, but that's kind of funny

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Originally Posted by Kestiel

For those advocating DEF stacking for anything but trash mobs (ie, not any bosses) please have a read: http://kanican.livejournal.com/55915.html

Note particularly the amount of DEF required to make much of a dent.....

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Awesome read. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Kestiel

You learn quickly that on any public forum (literal and figurative) that you should put forth information not for the vocal minority, but the silent majority who read, who visit and who try to learn.

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Instead more people should post for those who read but don't get involved, that's the majority of the people who will see these posts. They're the ones who are most helped.

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I'm just posting to say thanks for actually contributing something instead of having a childish pissing match. More importantly something with actual data backing it. I typically don't post in the PLD section of the forums since I really don't know much about the class, so I'm one of the "silent majority" you mentioned. Been trying to learn more about gearing effectively, stats, etc, and you've been very helpful.

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Originally Posted by Aceofspades

LOL , coming from a person who perfers DLH armor? As a matter of fact both are important but def is more benifical in damage mitigation then vit. Would you like a parse to test against? Would be happy to supply one on monday, given my static dosent afk on the weekend, (not likely event) I would LOVE to see your HP/ENMITY built take the damage I take, your stuck in this pre war tank world where everything revolves around tanks dealing damage and staking enmity, who cares if the whms are the only reason you can take a hit , right? moron, better idea, YOU stop posting

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Just browsing through casually, reading some arguements when i came across this.

Just fyi about the heavy darklight set. The body alone has 30+ defense over any standard high tiered body and helmet combination, 20 vit on it, about 80 hp combined for head and body, 45 emnity, regen +5 and shitty m.eva stat. Now, I'm not a huge fan of that body piece myself (due to my mind loss) but it sure mitigates a hell of alot more damage than your body piece and helmet combination would, meaning for that certain discussion, that body piece is the works.

Attributes Darklight Heavy Leggs/Feet
Defense218HP140Vitality12Dexterity12Evasion-20Magic Evasion10Enmity25

Attributes Darklight Heavy Body/HeadDefense308HP160Vitality20Evasion-20Magic Evasion10Regen5Enmity45

Attributes Darlight Heavy HandsDefense85HP80Vitality12Mind12Evasion-20Magic Evasion5Enmity45
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Total Def: 611

Total Vit: 44
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+ 39 Def for the shield = 650
+ 34 vit for the sword = 78 vit

With my Current gear, Def is 763 and vit is 375. 814 Def 381 vit with full party and food.

Conclusion; DLH is overrated for PLD set up. Thats not to say its worthless, But is easly outdone by crafted gear, with the darklight heavy gear, I would recomend a WAR tank, or a PLD built to do dps.

Also note, with just head and chest peice, where the vit dose suprass that of what i can acumulate on cobalt gear, my def for the two peices combined are 11 def higher then that of DLH, dlh has roughly 13 more vit, i think the trade off speaks for itself.