Tillana should not give 50 Gauge.

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Originally Posted by nguyentri11

Someone in this thread mentioned doubling the Esprit cap while under Technical Finish which would not add another buff. It would just be an additional effect under the Technical Finish buff just like how MNK's doubling of the Chakra cap effect is under the Brotherhood buff.

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Why not just add it to the "Enhanced Technical Finish II trait" ?


Before -

Enhanced Technical Finish II (Lv. 100) - Grants Dance of the Dawn Ready upon executing Technical Finish.


After -

Enhanced Technical Finish II (Lv. 100) - Grants Dance of the Dawn Ready upon executing Technical Finish. Increases Maximum Esprit to 150 while under the effects of Technical Finish.

I haven't had the opportunity to play the job down to the bone in actual raiding like I have with MCH and BRD, but I've played it regularly in various content and especially this expansion, and I'm gonna double down on my initial take, I'd hate to see the 50 gauge Tillana gone for the reason I exposed. I like juggling with this, sorry not sorry. It really informs what series of abilities you're going to use when getting into Technical depending on your gauge level, and then how it procs up. Just by the entry alone in Technical, very low gauge <20/30, safe to Tillana immediately, above 50, just DotD, between you can for example spend the Last Dance ready to wait for more gauge and DotD. If nothing happens for whatever reason (light party, solo), you can even use the Flourish procs to gauge up and DotD safely.

This wouldnt even be a mental exercise with an auto/free DotD proc.

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Originally Posted by Valence

I haven't had the opportunity to play the job down to the bone in actual raiding like I have with MCH and BRD, but I've played it regularly in various content and especially this expansion, and I'm gonna double down on my initial take, I'd hate to see the 50 gauge Tillana gone for the reason I exposed. I like juggling with this, sorry not sorry. It really informs what series of abilities you're going to use when getting into Technical depending on your gauge level, and then how it procs up. Just by the entry alone in Technical, very low gauge <20/30, safe to Tillana immediately, above 50, just DotD, between you can for example spend the Last Dance ready to wait for more gauge and DotD. If nothing happens for whatever reason (light party, solo), you can even use the Flourish procs to gauge up and DotD safely.

This wouldnt even be a mental exercise with an auto/free DotD proc.

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I've had the opportunity to play DNC in all content that has released this expansion, from normals up to ultimate. The mental exercise is a complete pain when combined with situational downtime and a full party of high-end raiders mashing their buttons.We really don't need it

The change also made Endwalker legacy ultimates kind of awkward because now you have to hard standard step in the middle of burst windows to not drop standard finish since tillana no longer refreshes the buff time, and the fights weren't built with that in mind so it just feels awful. Standard stepping before burst isn't always an option due to forced downtime, phase transitions, cutscenes, 2 min alignment, etc etc.

I can see 50 gauge tillana not being an issue in normal content, but the more high-end content I do with it the more I hate it and want it changed.

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Originally Posted by Liyinabi

I've had the opportunity to play DNC in all content that has released this expansion, from normals up to ultimate. The mental exercise is a complete pain when combined with situational downtime and a full party of high-end raiders mashing their buttons.We really don't need it

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Its wild how much my experience doing savage prog and farm with DNC differs from that, I actively brought the job because of how carefree and easygoing it is. Yes it has multiple - albeit individually very very minor - elements of actually good class design that frankly all FFXIV jobs ought to have in spades so we could have interesting class designs.

But really, some coinflip procs, two unreliable-income resources that are both non-crucial to the gameplay loop... that's not exactly a lot. Very simple class design. I guess it goes to show how samey and mind-numbing the other classes all being full static rotation is, that by comparison Dancer feels so "busy" in comparison to some?

Tirana should refresh standard finish buff. Idk why tf it doesn't. As far as the overcapping goes it's 50/50 . It would be a nice qol change for some and a braindeadification for the player who like playing around with kit friction. I feel like they should make Tirana not overcap because they took away my reaper gauge management from plentiful harvest and my inner villain wants to make my fellow forum lurkers car and val suffer my pain. XD