Please Share Updates on 8.0 Job Design

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Originally Posted by Altina_Orion

To be honest, I doubt they even have the job design ready. 8.0 development is VERY early and fanfest still hasn't been announced. We know nothing at all and I doubt the devs know much besides what the story is going to be.

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Job design and balance is also one of the last things they work on.

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Originally Posted by ty_taurus

Back in 2024, Yoshi P made a bold statement that job identity would be a focal point of the expansion after Dawntrail. But I have lost faith in FFXIV's ability to live up to that lofty promise. The only thing that will restore my trust in FFXIV and Yoshi P will be a genuine response to the six years of backlog job design feedback (which will be 7 when 8.0 releases) and a conscious effort to try and restore fun and excitement back into all jobs. That doesn't need to mean jobs become hard and punishing either. We had a healthy middle ground before, and we can have it again.

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I remember back before shb released yoshi p said healers were in an unbalanced state and they were going to homogenize them as a baseline and expand them out in the expansion after that. I don't believe anything that man says anymore. Too many lies to believe. I also only resubbed recently for occult crescent and was sorely disappointed. Back before ARR was released yoshi p said in an interview that one of the biggest problems was 1.0 prioritized graphics over gameplay. Which is exactly where we are now where everything looks gorgeous but the content itself is hollow as can be. I honestly have 0 faith in SE. I just hope they don't fail so blizzard still has a reason to improve and be competitive.

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Originally Posted by YovelaLindswood

I remember back before shb released yoshi p said healers were in an unbalanced state and they were going to homogenize them as a baseline and expand them out in the expansion after that. I don't believe anything that man says anymore. Too many lies to believe. I also only resubbed recently for occult crescent and was sorely disappointed. Back before ARR was released yoshi p said in an interview that one of the biggest problems was 1.0 prioritized graphics over gameplay. Which is exactly where we are now where everything looks gorgeous but the content itself is hollow as can be. I honestly have 0 faith in SE. I just hope they don't fail so blizzard still has a reason to improve and be competitive.

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We are going to homogenise healers then expand them out

SCH still an unmitigated monster

Mission accomplished I guess

My prediction for job stuff is that a lot of skills will be shuffled around, and some amount of consolidation so that jobs feel 'complete,' and play similarly to how they do now at 100, at level 50. That way from level 50 to 100 can be all new ideas. I think they will, and should pull some of the mechanical ideas from PVP, and Phantom Jobs into regular PVE.

Still unsure if we go to level 110 or if there will be any new systems that give the feeling of job customization.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

We are going to homogenise healers then expand them out

SCH still an unmitigated monster

Mission accomplished I guess

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Don't worry! SCH could be getting changes soon considering it likely has to be played by Sphene in the next dungeon.

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Originally Posted by mallleable

[...]Don't worry! SCH could be getting changes soon considering it likely has to be played by Sphene in the next dungeon.

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Considering that the FFIX counterpart of Sphene is a part-WHM, I'd rather not see us getting more and more WHM-esque buttons lmao. First it's Serapissm, what else we're getting next?

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Originally Posted by Kandraxx

I like how RDM was the easiest caster and now it’s the hardest and it’s the only one that didn’t change.

The first thing they have to do before they do anything else with the jobs is to make sure that it has an actual SOLO PLAYSTYLE. All of the jobs are designed around raid bosses and 2-min bursts and hard rotations. Solo play just feels awkward when I'm getting to the next mob while being stuck in half a ''rotation''.

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Word. I wish support jobs had a way to be a bit stronger on solo and even on Light Parties.

As a Dancer... give me a "Closed Position: Solo" that gives me a bigger personal buff to make up for the lack of the dps outsourced to the dance partner.

I like to play the job on solo content, like Deep Dungeons or OC gold farming solo, but knowing that I'm just sabotaging myself by using it and not something like a SAM, PCT or even MCH is kinda meh.

No update.. not enough funds like YoshyP stated

Unfortunately, it'll be the same situation as Forked Tower, 7.0 Pictomancer, or the new blacklist. Disastrous, easily avoidable. But the disconnection and lack of communication with XIV's community will ensure it happens.

The good news is that they'll likely play super safe and lobotomize the jobs even more, which is not going to require spending XIV's "limited" resources to fix everything and delay other content, like in 7.3. We've reached such a low point in Dawntrail that there is an upside to it.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

We're gonna get one more ogcd burst finisher on all jobs and healer dots will be extended to 2 minutes so it's easier to keep them running. Please look forward to it :)

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This, and your favourite ability will be removed.

I'm hoping they deliver and make jobs fun again in 8.0 but every patch of Dawntrail doubling down on making them all even more mindless doesn't fill me with a lot of confidence.