Occult Relic grind needs to change.

Oh hell nah, you can't be saying that after the expansion we just had.


It's okay for content to last for more than a single day. Let us have this.

I was in there for about 8 hours tonight… granted the first couple were doing the first few quests, attuning to all the aetherytes and killing things for the challenge logs. But still NOT ONE drop for the relic. I thought the drop rate for in-zone was supposed to be higher than the outside regular fates, but from what I hear, it’s terrible for both. To be clear, I don’t mind the grind, it’s the RNG I hate. I should have something to show for 6 hours worth of Fates/CEs.

Btw after seeing now the complains about the grind, cant wait to see the first complains about forked towers (cresents version of BA and Delubrum) because judging from Xenos Boss1 clear, that is something which needs again a lot of team work and mech knowledge, so im already seeing complains in direction " thats on savage level nerf pls its not for casuals which want only do eRP"

The only thing that needs to change is people who don’t want to grind learning that they can just not do the content.
It’s a relic grind, it is supposed to be grindy and long.
I don’t want the tomestone approach back.
Leave those of us who actually always liked how it was those breadcrumbs.

I also have bad luck with the drops and I refuse to do it outside the isle but you know what?
I don’t mind.
I do the fates and CE’s anyway so when such a thing drops the better.
Just enjoy the content and you will get the atmas automatically.
If it takes days then so be it. Relic weapons should be something that takes time and investment instead of a login reward.

So no, don’t change anything and don’t listen to the crowd that was responsible for what EW gave us please.
I am tired of people destroying this game…

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Originally Posted by Zakon

I wanted a grind, but not an RNG grind.

I would prefer "gather 100 of this item" and each fate grants 1 item over "gather 18 of this item" and then play for 5 hours and get exactly 1, which is what I just did.

RNG grinds are the worst. I logged out wishing I had just spent those 5 hours playing a different video game.

Also, the bosses are hard enough to actually need you to focus, which means you can't just turn your brain off and listen to an audio book or youtube or something. So not only is it an extremely long grind where you do not make guaranteed progress, you have to pay attention during a lot of it.

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Seems like the smart idea would always be to spend time on a different game if you don't enjoy the one you're playing, no? Like do you play a game for the rewards or to have fun?

They seem to have taken the aspect of EW relics a lot of people hated and mashed it together with the aspect of older relics that a lot of other people hated. Bold move.

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Originally Posted by hydralus

Seems like the smart idea would always be to spend time on a different game if you don't enjoy the one you're playing, no? Like do you play a game for the rewards or to have fun?

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Lol lets be real. MMO players dont have the concept of playing something just for fun.

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Originally Posted by XtremePrime

Isn't this what people wanted though? :/
Everyone was complaining over Endwalker's relic being too easy, not involved enough, and not nearly as grindy as it should be. They took that feedback and brought us back to having a grindy relic weapon!
~16 days is nothing in the grand scheme of things considering we still got atleast 2 months until 7.3 drops, it's meant to be something you work at overtime as opposed to in the first day or to collect every single one of them before the next patch drops.

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There is one difference. with rng drop you don't see yourself progressing. With Eureka, every fate you did was a step toward your goal. here you can spend 4 hours and not progress at all. The feeling is totally different. I'm the kind of guy that like the farm (I mean I farmed all the Eureka relics), but honestly, this "1 random drop every 2 hours" is not enjoyable.

lmao I knew when people were complaining about the previous grind being too easy that they would turn around and complain that it's too hard the next time. People just love to complain.

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Originally Posted by hydralus

Seems like the smart idea would always be to spend time on a different game if you don't enjoy the one you're playing, no? Like do you play a game for the rewards or to have fun?

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I want both?

Fate grinding isn't exactly the most fun thing in the world, but it's enjoyable enough to do every so often in small chunks and it gives me something to do in a game I otherwise like.

Problem with RNG rewards is there's no guarantee that I'll actually make any progress towards the reward I want. So if I log on and get nothing for the time I just spent, I feel like the game just wasted my time. I made no progress towards anything.

Do you go spam dungeons when you've already hit the tomestone cap? What's wrong, don't you enjoy playing the game? Go play it even though you get nothing for it.

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Originally Posted by Daralii

It's a one-off step. For every relic after the first, this step is just giving the drunk some tomestones.

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if this is the case, then I don't see why people are complaining. This is the middle ground I wanted. First relic requires you to do stuff, then the rest can be tomestones