#FFXIVSUMMONERSSTRIKE

This is the expansion the devs want you to throw summoner in the trash and go play pictomancer instead. Things like these are intentional sometimes. From a design perspective I don't understand how it makes sense to add another bahamut; like has summoner in FF always boiled down to "bahamut's the only thing I care about?" Someone at square enix has an extreme fascination with bahamut and it's unfortunately hurting the game; for me and many others.

I've seen my friend use summoner mods where you can summon bismark, the triad, and even Ivalice summons and it looks insane; you really get that feeling of being a summoner because of all these great choices. And the mods don't even change the way you play, it just gives us the choice to summon a lot more primals than ifrit, garuda, and titan from level 1 to level 100.

You know you can change the size of the summons right? It's all client side too so you choose the size of others summons.

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Originally Posted by dtv20

Why tf did they give summonere ANOTHER Bahamut and not more primals? Shiva? Leviathan? Ramuh? So many to give.

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Honestly this is all I want. Levi, Shiva and Ramuh… if they want to give us a million more Bahamuts after that, fine. But I want the rest of my elemental gems!

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

I like Summoner more now than I ever have before, and I've played it since 2014. Sometimes miss Earth Pet tanking for soloing but meh.

Summoner just now seems to be the go-to DPS for people learning mechanics or who just don't feel like playing anything too challenging at a given moment. I see more summoners now than I ever did in the past.

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Personally I dont think any Job should be so easy that people actively pick it to learn mechanics. It doesnt need to be super hard either.

Summoner needs to be more complicated in how the job works, it needs to build up to something, have something to track and reward players by doing it correctly. Currently it doesnt do any of those thing. I really love the concept of the rework, but how it is now is not objectively good and we shouldn't be saying it is in a fine state.

Just as being too hard is a problem, being to easy is ujusst as detrimental the game as a whole.

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Originally Posted by EusisLandale

I see them a lot more now too. Right up until they pull out Titan and blind me.

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If you're referring to the size of the summons blocking your view, have you tried shrinking them?
/petsize all small

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Originally Posted by dtv20

You know you can change the size of the summons right? It's all client side too so you choose the size of others summons.

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OMFG I NEEDED TO KNOW THIS LIKE 2 MONTHS AGO! I like my summons BIIIIGGG and someone had complained about that in a duty a bit ago and I just ignored them but now I can help them out! Thank you for that bit of info~

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Originally Posted by Anvaire

Personally I dont think any Job should be so easy that people actively pick it to learn mechanics. It doesnt need to be super hard either.

Summoner needs to be more complicated in how the job works, it needs to build up to something, have something to track and reward players by doing it correctly. Currently it doesnt do any of those thing. I really love the concept of the rework, but how it is now is not objectively good and we shouldn't be saying it is in a fine state.

Just as being too hard is a problem, being to easy is ujusst as detrimental the game as a whole.

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I like it as is. It's flashy and relaxing and the present iteration clearly has an audience. It feels more like a ritualist now and is no longer an incoherent hodge-podge of identities like in ShB. At the time I quit in ShB, the general feedback was it wasn't worth the effort for it's sub-par results.

I know every version of the jobs has it's fans - I just have a feeling this version is a success for them.

Caveat: While this is my primary DPS role and was typically the only class outside of WhM that I'd max out, I'm still a healer main. So my opinion is probably less important than full-time DPS summoners.

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

Be a good little Summoner and play quietly with your picturebook.

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Pictomancer stole his crayons.

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Originally Posted by EusisLandale

It's not the size. It's the flashbang.

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Robot Dragon go BRRRRRRRRRRRR....

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

If you're referring to the size of the summons blocking your view, have you tried shrinking them?
/petsize all small

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No, I'lm talking about them being literally blinding.

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Originally Posted by EusisLandale

It's not the size. It's the flashbang.

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