2.0 beta?

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Originally Posted by Elexia

No, I know exactly what a beta is. The more people who touch XIV that never touched it before, especially during it's testing period is a lot better than people who have been playing it the past 2 years.

If the beta is polished, that can only mean the game itself will be which is why you'd tell your friends to keep an eye on a potentially good new MMO coming out.

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if its a closed beta, its not about polish though, which is what it sounds like is gonna be happening first

open beta is moreso the polish end of things

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

if its a closed beta, its not about polish though, which is what it sounds like is gonna be happening first

open beta is moreso the polish end of things

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Open beta is almost always about stress testing the server and see how the load is distributed against the new engine(s).

Polish does come from feedback, but it's a part of the natural progression of what players want to talk about.

many players think 'Oh, they want me to tell them how they can make their game more fun. so i'll talk about that.'

and the feed back will go to the devs. but this feed back, if it is implemented, won't be seen for months. it has to be developed. tested internally. validated. and then released. Polish comes well after release, and well after beta.

what will be implemented is emergency fixes to the UI. or ground breaking bugs/oversights. "I can fish up 100 fish in an hour. turn them into a hat. and NPC the hat and make 2m gil an hour." or "If i move the minimap partway off the screen, it glitches out and doesn't refresh my position"

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Originally Posted by Colino

But by virtue of playing they will find bugs anyway. Not every single beta-tester writes reports or finds bugs anyway.

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They should be reporting bugs, thats half the point of beta testing. Even if your not familiar with code. this thing happened here and this happend i was on this class with this blahblah etc. can be helpful. As much as having fun being in a beta can be. Bug hunting should be on your mind when your beta testing. not beta fun-time or beta-learn stuff before others. Beta-testing ^^

Sadly beta = early preview to this generation of MMO players because that's exactly what the companies consider their beta. They only use the term beta to cover their asses if their demo is broken in any way so the press won't hop on their ass about a broken game.

I would expect at the very least legacy accounts will all have access to the 2.0 beta and a high possibility of everyone with an account when the servers go down will get access.

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Originally Posted by Lurex

I wasn't stating I was the only one. I was stating I stuck through all the crap with this game. Does that sound entitled? You are damn right it does. Because, in my eyes, I am entitled. Like i said, I deserve it, and I better be in Beta, period.

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They know you'll still pay even if you're not in the beta so what's the point in adding you? They'll be getting the people who aren't currently playing I'd imagine.

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Originally Posted by Onisake

Who gets in will largely depend on what they want to accomplish.

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^^This. But i'll add one more thing... There's maybe 30,000 of us who are at all active right now...
Obviously they are going to add more servers as well, although that might not be at the start of Beta, still,
They could add all 30,000 of us into Beta and still have gobs of room left over that they want to fill.
We're not going to get 'priority', but unless tens of thousands of random new people sign up on day one to test the beta, and none of them can be PS3, because that starts a month later, we'll get in by virtue of 'lack of applicants'.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

I would expect at the very least legacy accounts will all have access to the 2.0 beta and a high possibility of everyone with an account when the servers go down will get access.

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He already said Legacy won't get you exclusive access to the alpha and beta. Whether or not his stance changes in that regard we'll see but last word is pretty much no grandfathering into it.

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Originally Posted by Viritess

They should be reporting bugs, thats half the point of beta testing. Even if your not familiar with code. this thing happened here and this happend i was on this class with this blahblah etc. can be helpful. As much as having fun being in a beta can be. Bug hunting should be on your mind when your beta testing. not beta fun-time or beta-learn stuff before others. Beta-testing ^^

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I know what beta-testing is and how it works. I worked in testing for both hardware and software and I actually develop flash games as a part-time job ^^

I know everyone should ideally be bug reporting. I wasn't saying no one does, I simply said that unfortunately not everyone does.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

He already said Legacy won't get you exclusive access to the alpha and beta. Whether or not his stance changes in that regard we'll see but last word is pretty much no grandfathering into it.

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We'll get in. Lol.