SE really has no clue what to do with Scholar do they.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

No, the tool tip for Manifestation says it gives both Galvanize and Catalyze, at base. It doesn't matter if the spell crits or not, you always get both shields. That's my point.

And as for why I can't overlook it. The time frame is a factor, but I dislike how it sidelines the faerie. I like pet jobs, so I want more interaction, not less. I have a similar grip currently with SMN, and how Carby just stands there now. Some things are just hard to move past. Look at the people who want Kaiten back, even though the benefits were baked into the job in other ways.

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What tooltip are you reading because it 100% doesn’t, you only get catalyse if it crits, manifestation’s tooltip is exactly the same as adlo
https://i.postimg.cc/MGbfGcjm/IMG-1797.jpg

And I mean I can sort of understand that I just do not agree, you don’t have to agree with me but I do really think you are seriously underestimating its upsides and overplaying its downsides, not liking it because it sidelines the fairy in terms of lore I guess is fine (though I’d argue ShB did far worse than that to the fairy) but if you problem is lore or feeling again I’d argue Seraphism is arguably worse in every way because you are simply bypassing the fairy to do your own thing, which I think is a worse offence than dissipation because at least dissipation actually interacts with the fairy

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

not liking it because it sidelines the fairy in terms of lore I guess is fine (though I’d argue ShB did far worse than that to the fairy) but if you problem is lore or feeling again I’d argue Seraphism is arguably worse in every way because you are simply bypassing the fairy to do your own thing, which I think is a worse offence than dissipation because at least dissipation actually interacts with the fairy

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Yeah im similar if I were to put abilities on scholar that I hate summon seraph and fey blessing would be higher than dissipation. I mainly like scholar because pet focused healers are rare in MMOs and dissipation taking that aspect away is why I don't paticular like it though its purely personal preference on my end after all the fairy has lost a lot of its management anyway.

Y'know what? Screw it:

1. Make the new DoT an AF spender with 400 total potency at 45s cooldown.
2. Turn up Energy Drain's potency to 200 & restore 6% MP per use.

Not gonna change how I use Dissipation. But I'll feel better by using it properly now ;')

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

What tooltip are you reading because it 100% doesn’t, you only get catalyse if it crits, manifestation’s tooltip is exactly the same as adlo
https://i.postimg.cc/MGbfGcjm/IMG-1797.jpg

And I mean I can sort of understand that I just do not agree, you don’t have to agree with me but I do really think you are seriously underestimating its upsides and overplaying its downsides, not liking it because it sidelines the fairy in terms of lore I guess is fine (though I’d argue ShB did far worse than that to the fairy) but if you problem is lore or feeling again I’d argue Seraphism is arguably worse in every way because you are simply bypassing the fairy to do your own thing, which I think is a worse offence than dissipation because at least dissipation actually interacts with the fairy

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Wow am I dyslexic. My brain just didn't register the text between the first 180% until the comma before also. My apologies, that was a mistake on my part.

And I can't say it's a lore thing, but I would prefer more pet interaction. True, Seraphism looks odd, but at least the faerie is still there to interact with.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

What is there really to say. It’s a glorified 20% GCD amplifier hidden as actually changing the skills even though they are just 20% stronger. Making them instacast encroaches on SGE’s strengths so i dont think it’s a good thing. Shielding on the move is SGE’s strength and it should stay like that. As for the limitless ET; I have no words for how dumb that decision is. Why do we even have regen healers when a shield healer can put out a pure heal stronger than cure 3, it’s just pointless. The extra regen is just the extra “frosage” on the top of how badly this skill is designed

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I'm not sure if it's hidden, as the tooltips specifically mention the effects do not stack with Dissipation (so no 20% GCD boost). I guess it's just less math to really cement the feeling of a new VFX. I'm okay with SCH having instant cast GCD shields since it's locked behind a 180s recast, so it's not as if it has instant cast shields all the time. It's also distinctly different from SGE in the sense that E. Tactics can now be spammed, so it's a raw healing utility and recovery mode at the sacrifice of your entire MP pool (so SCH gains full leverage to their MP resource, a huge win to resource management).

Frankly, I'm more worried about SGE's cohesiveness in general. Pepsis doesn't get adjusted. GCD healing on sage is always rougher because they had a kardia system, but kardia was so underutilized and underpowered in burst situations. Heck, SGE's GCD shielding was always inferior to SCH and relied on oGCD abilities to be competitive to SCH. I rather they just played more into SGE's Kardia system earlier on and make it the highlight of its gameplay for both dps and healing rather than what it currently is because it feels like they're still on the fence on playing into SGE's kardia system at lower levels, causing the entire healing toolkit to be more non-synergetic as a whole. Probably to an even bigger degree - old skills like Pepsis doesn't mesh well with Philosophia as Pepsis is an ability that heals a flat amount potency and Philosophia affects spells, so unlike E. tactics that convert shields, you lose healing for using Pepsis. SGE's Zoe is still 90s, in contrast to SCH's Recitation being now 60s. Skills like Zoe and Pepsis on the other hand cannot take full advantage of Kardia, unlike Scholar's Emergency Tactics and Deployment Tactics. Just a lot of small things non-synergetic things that add up over time.

I'm honestly unsure if that's a win on resource management when Dissipation can already be used that way as of today, being a 3m cooldown and a direct 20% GCD heal amplifier itself. I personally don't feel like that adds anything to SCH other than "Whispering Dawn on 3m" primarily and "Neutral Sect" as a bonus.

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Originally Posted by Ramiee

I played prior to SHB and ive played it some in EW (did criterion and extreme no savages) it feels clunky with useless skills like Fey Blessing and Summon Seraph and the entire fairy gauge.
I can play SCH at a savage competent level its not hard (like all healers) its just not satisfying.

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I'm trying to think of some changes that might fit with SCH, but I wanted to ask what your concerns are with Fey Blessing and Summon Seraph. So that I have an idea on what aspects might need a change for those skills.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

I'm trying to think of some changes that might fit with SCH, but I wanted to ask what your concerns are with Fey Blessing and Summon Seraph. So that I have an idea on what aspects might need a change for those skills.

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Seraph’s problem is she doesn’t need to exist

Replace seraph with rouse that just changes blessing to 2 charges of consolation and you have achieved the same thing without seraphs wonky summoning and desummoing and having the extra versions of whispering dawn and fey illumination

Blessing there is nothing wrong with blessing but especially with the reduction in CD to recitation it just really doesn’t need to exist anymore

In my opinion, Whispering Dawn is enough. Just give it a second charge, lower its cooldown to 30 seconds then add a direct heal to it before applying the regen and we no longer have a need for Fey Blessing. Make Rouse a toggle action that greatly boosts the pet's healing output at the cost of 4% MP per tick, rids the need for Summon Seraph and Fey Union. Remove the regen from Sacred Soil and move the magic damage received from Fey Illumination to it then all of a sudden, Fey Illumination is open for a trait.